Re: GAME ON : Warrington Wolves v Wigan Warriors - 18:00:00 : Sun Oct 14, 2018 11:22 am  

Judder Man wrote:

Leeds are a spent force these days having to qualify to stay in super league on two recent seasons is the reality, too may great players lost and not replaced to stay competitive. You need to look west for trophies from now on.

We did the same in 2017 and it didn't stop us from getting to the two finals in 2018. It's a bit early for lamenting the demise of the Rhino's. Every side in SL has had difficulty in replacing players with the same quality, for the reasons that have been long debated (and still are) and standards have dropped across the board. This has resulted, for me, in the game being far less skillful and attractive than it use to be. It also gives a SL where, other than London Broncos who are hampered by having championship standard squad, it will be very difficult to predict the top four.
The top four being the criteria for competing for the prize of SL champions.

Re: GAME ON : Warrington Wolves v Wigan Warriors - 18:00:00 : Sun Oct 14, 2018 11:51 am  

MorePlaymakersNeeded wrote:

Warrington fans predicting that were going to win SL on an annual basis, JM, where do you get that from? There's no basis for us to do it, other than a Rubber Duckie wind up. It seems more to do with Eddie Hemmings who brings up the phrase "will it finally be their year" at least half a dozens times in the matches we feature in on Sky.

That'd be the same E. Hemmings who proclaims "never write off the Saints". Nuff said.

Re: GAME ON : Warrington Wolves v Wigan Warriors - 18:00:00 : Sun Oct 14, 2018 1:16 pm  

Willzay wrote:

Congrats Wigan. I bet Joel,Tomkins feels more of a twit now.

Might seem harsh but it was a blessing in disguise for Wigan, we got a massive upgrade with Greenwood coming in a season early.

Re: GAME ON : Warrington Wolves v Wigan Warriors - 18:00:00 : Sun Oct 14, 2018 2:52 pm  

MorePlaymakersNeeded wrote:

Warrington fans predicting that were going to win SL on an annual basis, JM, where do you get that from? There's no basis for us to do it, other than a Rubber Duckie wind up. It seems more to do with Eddie Hemmings who brings up the phrase "will it finally be their year" at least half a dozens times in the matches we feature in on Sky. You can call us guilty for believing that we'll win it one day, but accusing us of a prediction of us winning SL year on year is just plain daft.

I distinctly remember it reached epidemic proportions in the season Chris Sandow was on the rosta. There are around 4 posters on this forum and an endless number in the offices at BNFL Birchwood. You really need to get that Monkey off Your Back once the team does that fans will appreciate its value and not assume they have the best team to become champions.

Re: GAME ON : Warrington Wolves v Wigan Warriors - 18:00:00 : Sun Oct 14, 2018 5:45 pm  

Judder Man wrote:

I distinctly remember it reached epidemic proportions in the season Chris Sandow was on the rosta. There are around 4 posters on this forum and an endless number in the offices at BNFL Birchwood. You really need to get that Monkey off Your Back once the team does that fans will appreciate its value and not assume they have the best team to become champions.

An epidemic proportions of 4 posters? I cannot comment on BNFL as I don't work there. However, they must be giving you plenty of opportunity to be highly amused by them. As I said before, it's Eddie Hemmings who continually brings up the monkey, and Wire supporters on here (with the exception of maybe 4 as you state) are well aware of how much a challenge it is to win a GF. We've been aspiring to pick up the trophy since Sky re-introduced playoffs for it, and missed out on it by the narrowest of margins under the league format.
At the end of the day, unless you wear the cherry and white or blood and gold, we're in the same boat of a season ending in disappointment.
Onwards and upwards for 2019.

Re: GAME ON : Warrington Wolves v Wigan Warriors - 18:00:00 : Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:27 am  

Judder Man wrote:

Speaking from experience losing in big finals is much harder to take than losing in semi finals. Wire are fully badged up now as "serious Chokers" with 4 grand final losses and two big final losses in the same season on 2 occasions.

Most teams really struggle to put 2 or 3 big games together in wins and Wire are definitely one of them. Have they lost something like 8 from 11 from the other top 3 teams this year.

However you can rest with the thought that the more Grand Finals you lose the closer you will get to winning one, Wire fans just need to stop predicting its going to happen on an annual basis.

Chokers are clear favourites who don’t win, not the rank outsiders who manage to embarrass the favourites on their own patch and with no real expectation to win the final anyway.

From those last four finals I think Hull had a better side than us at Wembley, Wigan had a better squad than us at OT twice and Catalans had a better squad than us in August (none of our halfbacks or back row get into Catalans team!).

Plus it was Eddie and Stevo from the Sky team who predicted Wire to win it every year from about 2007-2013, where the saying/song comes from, not the fans.

Re: GAME ON : Warrington Wolves v Wigan Warriors - 18:00:00 : Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:50 am  

Psychedelic Casual wrote:

Our halves have been like that all season. Our back row is very poor as well. All they do is plod into the defensive line. That’s five places in a 13 man team that Wire have been very poor in all season (which is why we’ve signed three new back rowers for next season even with Currie to come back) yet we were the ones who finished 4th and got to two finals... same in 2016, (probably have a better squad now than we did then) yet we won the LLS and got to both finals then as well!

What the hell is the rest of this league doing?! It really is alarming that we can be getting so far with this side!

Yes, there are some top class players in there but everyone [/most] have some top class players.

I really don't understand why Wire signed Kevin Brown, he's competent most of the time, but not the creative force to take a team from contender to champion.

Re: GAME ON : Warrington Wolves v Wigan Warriors - 18:00:00 : Mon Oct 15, 2018 10:39 am  

Warrington just didn't have enough in the halves to win the game.

[Fantastic Mr Catpiss]

Re: GAME ON : Warrington Wolves v Wigan Warriors - 18:00:00 : Mon Oct 15, 2018 11:08 am  

Kelvin's Ferret wrote:

I really don't understand why Wire signed Kevin Brown, he's competent most of the time, but not the creative force to take a team from contender to champion.

Panic buy after sandow left us in the poop, we needed a scrum half and signed a stand off that really REALLY didn't fit in with the way we play.

Tyrone roberts has copped a lot of flak this year, and rightly so considering he's on a poop load of money, and messed us around and hasn't looked happy since day one(thats another discussion though) brown has flown under the radar and stood well out of the way. I reached peak vexed offness during the defeat at st helens in july, there was all the fluffing of drop goals from roberts and ratchford, brown was waaaaaay out in the centres, proper hiding. Can't be doing that as a senior half.

Re: GAME ON : Warrington Wolves v Wigan Warriors - 18:00:00 : Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:53 pm  

Judder Man wrote:

I distinctly remember it reached epidemic proportions in the season Chris Sandow was on the rosta. There are around 4 posters on this forum and an endless number in the offices at BNFL Birchwood. You really need to get that Monkey off Your Back once the team does that fans will appreciate its value and not assume they have the best team to become champions.

BNFL? Its been Sellafield Ltd for about 10 years.