Re: What does Leeds' victory mean for the regular season? : Mon Oct 08, 2012 4:10 pm  

RLBandit wrote:

My issue with the playoffs is not specifically that a team can win it from 5th. It's simply that fans have voted with their feet for all expect the GF. The season-ticket thing is a red-herring - if people cared that much, they'd buy a ticket - they don't.

Hopefully we're wrong, but I think quite a lot of us are concerned about the effect of the last two years on interest in the regular season. ( Last year was seen as a 'freak', now I wonder if people will really start to think that the League doesn't matter all that much ).

A 'champions league' would go a long way to fixing this problem - making top 4 (and your position in it) really important, especially if the top two European teams got 3 and 4 from the NRL in their group. But it's not going to happen of course.

Next best I think is the original top 5 system.

Top 6 , every game has a definate meaning , either qualification for the GF or elimination , and no team misses more than 1 week without a game

Re: What does Leeds' victory mean for the regular season? : Mon Oct 08, 2012 4:11 pm  

TheElectricGlidingWarrior wrote:

There's only one of us pretending here mate. I've said it was hard but not hard enough. It's there in black and white so besides making a tit of yourself what are you trying to achieve?

Oh dear, so now you think I've said it should be easier to win from 5th? No wonder you're having trouble keeping up.

"It would be exactly the same" - I don't even think you've read my propsal, let alone understood it.

Im embarrased for you.

Re: What does Leeds' victory mean for the regular season? : Mon Oct 08, 2012 4:13 pm  

Starbug wrote:

Top 6 , every game has a definate meaning , either qualification for the GF or elimination , and no team misses more than 1 week without a game

Top 6 would have been decided about a month before the end of the season. It would have left us with 4 rounds where 8 teams had nothing to play for.

Re: What does Leeds' victory mean for the regular season? : Mon Oct 08, 2012 4:16 pm  

SmokeyTA wrote:

Top 6 would have been decided about a month before the end of the season. It would have left us with 4 rounds where 8 teams had nothing to play for.

Omg - what an unspeakable tragedy that would have been!

Re: What does Leeds' victory mean for the regular season? : Mon Oct 08, 2012 4:20 pm  

SmokeyTA wrote:

Top 6 would have been decided about a month before the end of the season. It would have left us with 4 rounds where 8 teams had nothing to play for.

This season perhaps , but then why not have a top 10 , or 12 ?

The more clubs you have in the play offs , the more you dilute what you are trying to achieve , a balance is what you are looking for between retaining interest and having a worthwhile prize

Re: What does Leeds' victory mean for the regular season? : Mon Oct 08, 2012 4:25 pm  

SmokeyTA wrote:

Im embarrased for you.

Of course you are. The lack of any substance in your reply suggests the penny may have finally dropped and you've realised nobody is falling for your attempts to tell others what their arguments are just so that you can argue against what you've made up.

Re: What does Leeds' victory mean for the regular season? : Mon Oct 08, 2012 4:30 pm  

Starbug wrote:

This season perhaps , but then why not have a top 10 , or 12 ?

Why not? there is an argument to do so. It probably doesnt hold much water but it is there.

The more clubs you have in the play offs , the more you dilute what you are trying to achieve , a balance is what you are looking for between retaining interest and having a worthwhile prize

Yes, there is a balance, and thats the balance we are trying to achieve. I think half-way is an easy balance, most people's points seem to be about teams losing more than they win, or teams finishing in the bottom half qualifying, which is understandable. I would prefer if we did have half way as our cut off point, but top 7 systems are largely rubbish.

I think this is all a bit redundent really, the size of the league will change, and so will the play-offs. I think at either 16 or 18 teams we will split to conferences, with top 4 in each conference playing.

Re: What does Leeds' victory mean for the regular season? : Mon Oct 08, 2012 4:30 pm  

TheElectricGlidingWarrior wrote:

Of course you are. The lack of any substance in your reply suggests the penny may have finally dropped and you've realised nobody is falling for your attempts to tell others what their arguments are just so that you can argue against what you've made up.

You can hide behind whatever frame you want to put your argument in, its transparent, you arent as subtle as you think you are.

Re: What does Leeds' victory mean for the regular season? : Mon Oct 08, 2012 4:50 pm  

TheElectricGlidingWarrior wrote:

SmokeyTA wrote:

Im embarrased for you.

Of course you are. The lack of any substance in your reply suggests the penny may have finally dropped and you've realised nobody is falling for your attempts to tell others what their arguments are just so that you can argue against what you've made up.

Having read this entire thread, I can confirm that SmokeyTA is completely correct in stating what he has. Who can blame him for no longer wishing to engage with such obvious, bitter drivel.

Re: What does Leeds' victory mean for the regular season? : Mon Oct 08, 2012 5:21 pm  

SmokeyTA wrote:

You can hide behind whatever frame you want to put your argument in, its transparent, you arent as subtle as you think you are.

Hiding behind a frame? Er... ok pal! Frankly, the idea that my argument is one thing but I'm pretending it's something else is about one of the most bizarre claims I've seen on an internet forum. I mean why wouldn't I just present my real argument instead of this so-called fake argument? Bizarre!