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Nigel is one of very many stealing a wage at the RFL.


Not for long though. He's got a new job in Australia to go to at the end of the world cup this year.
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Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.


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My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.

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Yes, but Smokey reckons the RFL have got a strategic plan,

Its available on the RFL website.

HTH
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gutterfax wrote:
Oh dear....it seems you have no concept of adult sporting preferences and are a remnant of the never lamented "self appointed defenders of the RL faith" :lol:
1. What exactly is your definition of a Union Troll? After the wag in you has replied "you", why not give that question some thought in the context of my posts on this forum, rather than your personal feelings towards the bigger, more popular and better run code of Rugby.
2. On the subject of Union being a Bigger, more popular and better Run code of Rugby, please try to limit your reference to a domestic TV deal and 3 midweek games that nobody outside of Australia watches to a minimum. In return, I won't point out that the autumn RU international series in England, Wales, France and Ireland this year will attract far greater numbers of fans and general media interest than the RLWC across the board.
3. I always post essays......you and to a greater extent the other "self appointed defenders of the RL faith" who are no longer with us on these boards have no chance of getting me in a Tizz (whatever Tizz is?).
4. I deal in reality.....your attempts to turn this into a debate about me and Union show you for the narrow minded poster that you are....your hatred of another sport is insane at worst, deluded at best, but it helps you cloud the topic under debate...the 11.5% drop in SL attendances and the 15.5% drop in CC crowds. You were happy toad French Union to the debate, but ignored the Amlin and Pro-12 Union comps that didn't suit your argument.


Lastly, as for painting RL in a worse state than it really is, let's examine the facts across the Northern hemisphere shall we?
Sky TV are paying a the RFL/SL a fraction of the money that BT has paid for other sports...soccer in the Barclays Premiership, Blue Square Conference and FA Cup, Rugby with the Aviva premiership with £152m over 4 years. I believe that works out at £38m a year....or double what SKY pay for the SL for less games.
Lastly, on the topic of TV deals...SKY weren't bothered about the RLWC.....so the majority of that comp will be available on access TV or in Rileys snooker halls :CRAZY: Premier Sports lost their flagship soccer content to BT.....6,500 subscribers??? 6,500 as a crowd at a game in SL gets lambasted on these boards :shock:

Then there's the sponsors...or as they are referred to by the RFL, PARTNERS: Basically, there was little if any interest in the naming rights of the premier RL comp in the NH......so bits were syphoned off for minimal income to foxy bingo et al....£4.25 million a year is the current AVIVA deal, whilst the Dutch brewer Heineken estimates it has pumped £100,000,000 into Union in the last 20 years.
Tetley" were announced as CC sponsors with no reference to amounts...a worrying trend given prior delight at releasing financial figures.

Crowds are down. You will debate with me about increased prices, but the fact remains that crowds are down across the board (Leeds accepted). The majority of clubs are not on a secure financial footing (nothing new in PRO team sports) and the league is looking to reduce the number of clubs to try and offer another route to stability. HKR and London Broncos are to lose their benefactors at the end of this season, Salford new owner is in reality looking to short term success to build crowds...a method that has never worked in the short term (Melbourne are up 33% since 1998.....33% on the back of a few GF's etc....33% for Salford will have them still under 5k).

Clubs like Huddersfield are 100% reliant on their benefactor and it can't be good business practice to rely on the health of one man. Leeds and Wigan are showing the rest how it is done, but there is still ingrained an attitude for immediate gratification in League....I believe the good Dr at Salford sees himself as a sort of Abramovich of the north :lol:

The RFL seem content to continue to reward failure....the exiles id a broken concept, last autumns internationals were a farce (1,500 in Wales???) and the RLWC ticket sales are never announced without spin, smoke and mirrors and a fair amount of truth bending. The previous RLWC in Britain had a £1,000,000 naming rights sponsor...this one has an official hire car supplier and an official hotel partner......hardly good news central is it?

On the pitch, the game continues to be streets ahead of all other team sports on offer in the UK, but it is off the park that the woes are dragging the sport backwards.

If all goes the way most expect it to, by 2015 RL in Britain will be yet again an M62 hobby with a French team from the south west of France. Sky will be 3 years into their current 5 year deal and will be hard pressed to convince advertisers as to their "mythical" southern audience. The English media, for whatever reason, will report negative stories about RL and the demise of London (a totally different topic BTW) will be pounced upon and reported as proof that League is a northern pastime.

there are some Rugby League fans who will be happy once GB have managed to beat the Aussies in a series or a World cup, but in reality, the sport has a fragile framework holding it up professionally with little or no "plan B" if SKY were to walk away...the 100% reliance on the TV partnership is a horrific way to run a professional sports business, but increasingly, with each passing year, the revenue stream comes from SKY first with everything else tagged on. Take away TV coverage of RL and you run the risk of a return to semi-professional RL....and no chance of GB beating Australia in a series (unless the team is crammed with NRL based players)



Nice waffle, do you want to explain why RU isn't riding on this imaginary crest of an Olympic wave? :lol:
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SmokeyTA wrote:
Its available on the RFL website.

HTH

Their "strategic aims" are:

a) To create the best elite level Rugby League competition(s) in the world

b) To create the best, viable and competitive semi-professional competition possible

c) To maximise the numbers engaged in our sport and the enjoyment derived from participation in Rugby League

d) To be successful internationally on a sustainable basis at all levels

How do you think they're doing against these? Marks out of ten.
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Not for long though. He's got a new job in Australia to go to at the end of the world cup this year.

Doing what !?!
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You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.

JB Down Under wrote:
Nice waffle, do you want to explain why RU isn't riding on this imaginary crest of an Olympic wave? :lol:

Why should I? I didn't mention Union...you did and only selectively at that.

Your infatuation with Union is quite disturbing WA Red.....are you a Farce ST holder?

As for the waffle, care to counter any of the points I made about the state of Professional RL in Great Britain at the moment, or do you just do sweeping statements?

BTW......here's some more facts for you:

2,377 at London tonight....a record low Crowd for the visit of the Rhinos......34% down on last year, 46% down on the previous 17 game SL average and yet the RFL sit back and let the owner drive the London Broncos Bus over a cliff.
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gutterfax wrote:
Why should I? I didn't mention Union...you did and only selectively at that.

Your infatuation with Union is quite disturbing WA Red.....are you a Farce ST holder?

As for the waffle, care to counter any of the points I made about the state of Professional RL in Great Britain at the moment, or do you just do sweeping statements?

BTW......here's some more facts for you:

2,377 at London tonight....a record low Crowd for the visit of the Rhinos......34% down on last year, 46% down on the previous 17 game SL average and yet the RFL sit back and let the owner drive the London Broncos Bus over a cliff.


I wouldn't really disagree with many of the details you post about either Union or League

However you have picked out the bad parts of League and the good parts of Union.
They have had clubs in financial difficulties as well and only a few get the big crowds same as League.

The running of the game and the power of the sponsors are a quantum leap apart unfortunately. That will be the case for a long time. The product we have is unfortunately better but invisible to many.
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Doing what !?!


Nothing to do with RL whatsoever I have been told.
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gutterfax wrote:
Why should I? I didn't mention Union...you did and only selectively at that.

Your infatuation with Union is quite disturbing WA Red.....are you a Farce ST holder?

As for the waffle, care to counter any of the points I made about the state of Professional RL in Great Britain at the moment, or do you just do sweeping statements?

BTW......here's some more facts for you:

2,377 at London tonight....a record low Crowd for the visit of the Rhinos......34% down on last year, 46% down on the previous 17 game SL average and yet the RFL sit back and let the owner drive the London Broncos Bus over a cliff.


You stated "sports" (note the plural) are riding this wave that RL has missed. Come on genius tell us which "sports" you were referring to. Clearly not football or union so which ones? Maybe water polo or archery is drawing the crowds! Lol.
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UPDATE...
SL Round 23 attendances - comparison to same fixtures last year

London V Leeds in 2013 = 2,377
London V Leeds in 2012 = 3,628
% decrease = -34.48%

Hull V Widnes in 2013 = 10,500
Hull V Widnes in 2012 = 10,705
% decrease = -1.91%

Wigan V Hull KR in 2013 = 12,194
Wigan V Hull KR in 2012 = 14,457
% decrease = -15.65%
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