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Re: Hardaker : Fri Oct 19, 2018 1:31 pm  
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Re: Hardaker : Fri Oct 19, 2018 1:42 pm  
Ancient and Loyal.

Right decision imo. He needs professional help and that is what the club have arranged for him, so well done Wigan.[/quote]

Do you think the others haven't tried to help?
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Re: Hardaker : Fri Oct 19, 2018 1:53 pm  
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Do you think the others haven't tried to help?


IL appears to think not - he alludes in the statement that it "could and should" have been dealt with before; it's almost as if the adult man himself has no responsibility for his repeated misdemeanours, and it's all because other adult humans haven't taken charge of his life.
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Re: Hardaker : Fri Oct 19, 2018 1:53 pm  
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Ancient and Loyal.

Right decision imo. He needs professional help and that is what the club have arranged for him, so well done Wigan.


Do you think the others haven't tried to help?[/quote]
exactly he has had plenty of help and plenty chances, he will keep screwing up because he does not care, he says what he is told to say, and acts like he is remorseful, but less than 12 months it took him to screw up again when he should have been getting his head down and keeping out of trouble, but instead he decided to spend a year our on the mickey back snorting coke (well why not i'm already banned for it) and when he screws up again at Wigan they will say " this is your last chance" honestly be better for the game if union came in for him get rid of him completely.
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Re: Hardaker : Fri Oct 19, 2018 1:56 pm  
I'm guessing Wigan have insisted on him going to Rehab, but hopefully he wants do so as well.
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Re: Hardaker : Fri Oct 19, 2018 2:03 pm  
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I'm guessing Wigan have insisted on him going to Rehab, but hopefully he wants do so as well.



That is the point you can provide help but if the person does not want or cannot accept the help there is nothing you can do.


I do not believe that Leeds and Cas offered no help to try to turn him around so they could benefit from his immense talent
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Re: Hardaker : Fri Oct 19, 2018 2:15 pm  
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Ancient and Loyal.

Right decision imo. He needs professional help and that is what the club have arranged for him, so well done Wigan.


Do you think the others haven't tried to help?[/quote]

They probably have provided help but this rehab option appears not to have been included.

Don't know if it will work but it's at least worth a shot, not only because of his talent but for him personally.
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Re: Hardaker : Fri Oct 19, 2018 2:40 pm  
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IL appears to think not - he alludes in the statement that it "could and should" have been dealt with before; it's almost as if the adult man himself has no responsibility for his repeated misdemeanours, and it's all because other adult humans haven't taken charge of his life.


Quite ‘classy’ of Wigan to try shift some of the blame on his former clubs.

Leeds sent him to anger management to no apparent avail and had him doing coaching with LGBT rugby teams after his homosexual insult incident. Maybe Leeds could’ve sent him to rehab for his drinking but maybe it wasn’t at the same level in 2014/15/16 as it is now in 2018 and him not being able to play.
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Re: Hardaker : Fri Oct 19, 2018 3:12 pm  
Wigan are giving him the best chance of rehabilitation by sending him for a residential stay at the Sporting Chance clinic. It might not work, but it’s the best chance he’s got. Unfortunately he’s in the bracket of those who it is most difficult to rehabilitate - an alcoholic under the age of 30.

Poor form for Wigan to insult his previous clubs. He was the model professional at Cas until his ban. There were no signs of any problems over his nine months at the club before his moment of madness.
Leeds gave him professional support when he was there when it was needed too.

It’s quite possible he’s become addicted to alcohol during his suspension as he hasn’t had the focus of professional RL and the need to be in training in a daily basis. Nor has he had the influence of other professional athletes, but has spent all his time with his “mates” from outside RL. Seems strange for Wigan to be throwing insults at Leeds and Cas when they’ve signed a player with well-known mental health issues who is only available because he’s been banned for taking class A after a drinking binge. What exactly were they expecting?
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Re: Hardaker : Fri Oct 19, 2018 3:25 pm  
I believe booze was involved in in his original published incident with the student resolved with an 'sorry letter' and a some cash compensation for the student, so maybe the alcohol is a recurring theme and not a result of his white powder playtime and subsequent quite lenient 14 month ban, pity his mates and family didn't rally round and get him to keep fit and ready to step back into sport. IDIOT BOY the sad saga continues
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