Re: Mergers : Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:28 pm  

Sir Kevin Sinfield wrote:

Achieved through selling players and reaching the Grand Final.

Well, yes. How is that a bad thing?

Re: Mergers : Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:34 pm  

Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza wrote:

No sounds fanciful tbh. Bradford need to remain as a stand alone club.

Fax to merge with the other greater Manchester clubs.

Re: Mergers : Mon Sep 03, 2018 9:21 pm  

Sir Kevin Sinfield wrote:

Achieved through selling players and reaching the Grand Final.

Sold Johnson & McLelland for under 100k? They SPENT 250k on players, however.

3 years of profit in a row, one of what...3? 4? self sufficient teams in the league.

Re: Mergers : Mon Sep 03, 2018 9:25 pm  

Fully wrote: Cas increased their turnover to £6m and recorded a record £691,000 profit for 2017 https://www.castlefordtigers.com/article.php?id=6085 Very impressive!

Fully wrote: Cas increased their turnover to £6m and recorded a record £691,000 profit for 2017 https://www.castlefordtigers.com/article.php?id=6085 Very impressive!

Re: Mergers : Mon Sep 03, 2018 10:14 pm  

Not if you believe bitter wakey fans on here, we are being propped up By a sugar daddy

Re: Mergers : Mon Sep 03, 2018 10:17 pm  

Well done indeed.

Re: Mergers : Mon Sep 03, 2018 11:07 pm  

Cas Till I Die wrote:

Not if you believe bitter wakey fans on here, we are being propped up By a sugar daddy

Point me to a "bitter" Wakey fan whose said that?

Re: Mergers : Mon Sep 03, 2018 11:26 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

Oldham,Rochdale & Swinton

Leeds & Hunslet

Cas, Featherstone & Wakefield

Huddersfield, Batley and Dewsbury

Oldham & Rochdale could be a go-er , call them North Manchester.
Swinton are a Salford Club & so Salford/Swinton could be done in new stadium more centrally located.

Cas/Fev/Wakey = never gonna happen.
Wigan/Leigh = Never gonna happen.
Hull F.C/Hull K.R = Never gonna happen.
Wire/Widnes = Never gonna happen.

What about London/Hemel ?

Cumbria could work ( & probably needs to )

Re: Mergers : Mon Sep 03, 2018 11:44 pm  

Willzay wrote:

Point me to a "bitter" Wakey fan whose said that?

wrencat1873 wrote:

"Make a profit" ??

Is that why you sold you best player "cash upfront" to Wire a couple of seasons ago.
Also, how much of the Fulton loans are still on the books or, were they written off when he passed away ?

Having a wealthy guy to take care of any losses seems a little different from being "in profit".

Agree about competent on the field and not sure about the use of the cap and any marque player(s)

The cup run and hub cap have certainly helped and well done on those.

Key there is where your ill informeed wakey pal put speech marks in between “make a profit “.....

Hope this helps you when you ask me to do your research that you couldn’t be bothered to do in future

Re: Mergers : Mon Sep 03, 2018 11:48 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

I fully understand the sentiment in your post, however, if you cut out the 2nd and 3rd tier of the sport and rely on club academies to prepare players for SL, you will kill the sport, you would also massively alienate the fans who do attend those games and whilst some may drift towards their nearest SL club, the majority of them would be lost to the game and probably their kids and grand kids as well.

We need the whole RL pyramid to be as strong as possible, all the way through the amateur game, right up to SL and International level.
If you take out one or 2 levels you would kill the game.
Yes, there are ageing players in The Championship and League 1 BUT, there are also young kids learning their trade.
Many SL sides have players on dual reg at Championship and League 1 sides. Should they sit in the stands and vegetate or maybe just chuck them on the scrapheap if they haven't made the grade at a particular point in time.

All true.

Let's take my club Leigh & say that a merger with Wigan is forced/foisted upon Leigh, what would happen.

Roughly at Championship level that is 4,000 lost fans to the Pro game, at SL level last year that's roughly 5,500 - 6,000 lost to the Pro game. Where do those fans go ? Not Wigan *who will still be Wigan* but maybe 300 - 400 to both Leigh Miners & Leigh East, so the town Amateur Clubs gain maybe 600 - 800 fans between them but potentially 4-5k lost from Leigh Centurions, net loss to the game of 3,200 - 5,200 !!! Worth it ?