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Re: World Cup Ticket Sales : Tue Aug 06, 2013 3:09 pm  
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Little Ivor wrote:
That was over a month ago now...

I consider 2/3 of An England group game sold 100 days out to be pretty positive...


Really?
I'd consider an England Group game in a world cup hosted in England (In the heartlands) not sold out hours from general release in a stadium that only holds 25,000 anything but positive. :roll:


Bet you're a barrell of laughs at the pub.

Jesus H christ.
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Re: World Cup Ticket Sales : Tue Aug 06, 2013 5:08 pm  
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Really?
I'd consider an England Group game in a world cup hosted in England (In the heartlands) not sold out hours from general release in a stadium that only holds 25,000 anything but positive. :roll:



What planet are you on? When has an international RL game EVER sold out hours after going on sale? This the exact type of game that sales will pick up for closer to the time as RL fans are famous for leaving it until the last minute.

The heartland fans are expected to go to a lot of games, most will be spreading the cost. Unfortunately, in most families i don't expect world cup tickets to take priority on household budgets. People have bills, cars, houses, holidays, kids etc to pay for.
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Re: World Cup Ticket Sales : Tue Aug 06, 2013 6:28 pm  
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What planet are you on? When has an international RL game EVER sold out hours after going on sale? This the exact type of game that sales will pick up for closer to the time as RL fans are famous for leaving it until the last minute.
Dear old Gutts remains completely confused that RL hasn't suddenly overnight morphed into a sport with entirely different characteristics to those it has been displaying for the past century.
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was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have


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You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.

Re: World Cup Ticket Sales : Tue Aug 06, 2013 7:30 pm  
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Dear old Gutts remains completely confused that RL hasn't suddenly overnight morphed into a sport with entirely different characteristics to those it has been displaying for the past century.

It bloody well needs to......but instead, it looks like it is regressing
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King Street Cat wrote:
Some might look at this as being harsh but I think it's fair. When are the Rugby League going to stop persisting with this fantasy expansion. If it hasn't worked by now, it never will! I'm all for reaching out to a wider audience with our game but not at the expense of historical clubs in the homelands.

Re: World Cup Ticket Sales : Tue Aug 06, 2013 8:26 pm  
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It bloody well needs to......but instead, it looks like it is regressing
In what way?
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Re: World Cup Ticket Sales : Tue Aug 06, 2013 10:03 pm  
Are tickets given away for free included in ticket sales?
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dally messenger wrote:
was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have


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You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.

Re: World Cup Ticket Sales : Tue Aug 06, 2013 10:03 pm  
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In what way?


Sorry, general sweeping statement.....I'm just bitter that London will soon be a distant SL memory and the pit villages and a French team will be the Pro RL universe in the NH.

The RLWC 2013 organisers never really announced what would be seen as a success, what KPI's were going to be used to judge progress etc...all that has happened is Wood said once that the competition would make money (not repeated it again though) and now this Bolton bird has said 500k tickets is the target.

I am not saying they didn't have these targets, but they are loathe to set themselves up for any consequential action when stuff goes wrong.....it's a nice safe way to keep your job!

200,000 sales is great going, but they are relying on 300,000 sales from an audience that has shown itself reticent to spend money on any game that doesn't come included with their season ticket....15% drop in CC attendances and 30% les fans at 8 play-offs in 2012 compared to 2010....we keep hearing in billy eves attendance thread that the economy is to blame for the 11.5% from in SL attendances....something has to give :CRAZY:

If I still lived in the UK, then Cardiff, Wembley and Old Trafford would have been booked straight away and I would probably wait until the end of SL to pick a couple of smaller country games.......let's hope the RFL are right about fans being traditionally late arriving to the party
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King Street Cat wrote:
Some might look at this as being harsh but I think it's fair. When are the Rugby League going to stop persisting with this fantasy expansion. If it hasn't worked by now, it never will! I'm all for reaching out to a wider audience with our game but not at the expense of historical clubs in the homelands.

Re: World Cup Ticket Sales : Tue Aug 06, 2013 10:09 pm  
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Sorry, general sweeping statement.....I'm just bitter that London will soon be a distant SL memory and the pit villages and a French team will be the Pro RL universe in the NH.

The RLWC 2013 organisers never really announced what would be seen as a success, what KPI's were going to be used to judge progress etc...all that has happened is Wood said once that the competition would make money (not repeated it again though) and now this Bolton bird has said 500k tickets is the target.

I am not saying they didn't have these targets, but they are loathe to set themselves up for any consequential action when stuff goes wrong.....it's a nice safe way to keep your job!

200,000 sales is great going, but they are relying on 300,000 sales from an audience that has shown itself reticent to spend money on any game that doesn't come included with their season ticket....15% drop in CC attendances and 30% les fans at 8 play-offs in 2012 compared to 2010....we keep hearing in billy eves attendance thread that the economy is to blame for the 11.5% from in SL attendances....something has to give :CRAZY:

If I still lived in the UK, then Cardiff, Wembley and Old Trafford would have been booked straight away and I would probably wait until the end of SL to pick a couple of smaller country games.......let's hope the RFL are right about fans being traditionally late arriving to the party
Blame the fans who don't attend and talk down the game at every opportunity. This World Cup will still probably be the best ever regardless.
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King Street Cat wrote:
Some might look at this as being harsh but I think it's fair. When are the Rugby League going to stop persisting with this fantasy expansion. If it hasn't worked by now, it never will! I'm all for reaching out to a wider audience with our game but not at the expense of historical clubs in the homelands.

Re: World Cup Ticket Sales : Tue Aug 06, 2013 10:11 pm  
dany1979 wrote:
Are tickets given away for free included in ticket sales?
Yeah, I guess the tens of tickets that have been given away are probably included.
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dally messenger wrote:
was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have


eels fan wrote:
You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.

Re: World Cup Ticket Sales : Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:01 pm  
headhunter wrote:
Blame the fans who don't attend and talk down the game at every opportunity.


I am a realist. I don't talk the game down for giggles....I say it as I see it and the fans are becoming less and less engaged with the game. There are plenty of positives to talk about with regard to the game, but Superleague isn't one of them. The majority of posters on these boards are SL club followers.
You say it's the fans fault...I say it's unfair to expect fans to turn up to games if you don't ask them to come and ask them with bells on...the days of sticking posts in the ground and announcing KO times is long gone! And a few extraordinary cartoons don't cut the mustard either.

I would love to see the governing body take bold and strong decisions, designed to challenge the stereotypical view of the game, but instead they make nothing gestures and cow down to the wishes of the bigger clubs.

Regardless of the fact I am a London Broncos fanatic, if The RFL really wanted to expand the game, then they should have funded the club in the capital all guns blazing, a la Melbourne Storm. Instead, they are prepared to watch the club die slowly and become more of an embarrassment with each turn of the page.....they don't even have the balls to put us out if its misery.

The howls of Chairmen bemoaning low attendances for London games in the heartlands are a smokescreen. 2,000 fans at 25 a head is 50k maximum.....about 1% of the turn over of a SL club....but still the RFL will manage London out of the top table citing nature taking its course and the game will retreat to the M62.......good luck with the naming rights sponsor then by the way!


headhunter wrote:
This World Cup will still probably be the best ever regardless.


In whose eyes? Certainly not those of the corporates, sponsors or major broadcast partner for the game in the northern hemisphere.

300k in attendance is all it will take to surpass the 2008 version......if that's the only gauge, then yeah 2013 should beat that, but in the real world, there has never been any targets set, bold statements made or clever initiatives put in place....it's all just been very "safe".


Don't get me wrong....I want nothing more than to tune into the opening ceremony and see a packed Cardiff and 2 cracking games of RL......once the cup starts then the RFL don't matter any more.....but if people tune into BBC and see banks and banks of empty seats, it will do the game no favours at all.
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