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Re: 2019 Player Ins & Outs : Tue Jul 09, 2019 7:56 am  
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So you don't think sinfield is capable of getting shut if there was a better option really ? remind me how it went with his good mate Furner not to mention your mate Mcdermott. Sinfield would stab his own granny in the back .


McDermott?? Sinfield didn't return until after he was sacked. And while he was probably partly responsible for sacking Furner - though to what extent is uncertain - Furner himself was hardly blameless, given results and performances.

But I forget: Salford have never, ever in their history sacked a coach.
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Re: 2019 Player Ins & Outs : Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:14 am  
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But I forget: Salford have never, ever in their history sacked a coach.


We have but it always took some doing John Harvey didn't even get the boot after our worst result ever that 96-16 defeat at Bradford. :wink:

John Wilkinson was always too loyal to his coaches, and nowadays we couldn't pay one off. :roll:

Wouldn't be surprised to see sinners come back to Salford this time for Watto, although at the moment you may be in danger of Agar getting the gig. :shock:
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Re: 2019 Player Ins & Outs : Tue Jul 09, 2019 2:34 pm  
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Radlinski trying to make out as if f Hastings turned down bigger money elsewhere to join them, who exactly? If an NRL team put in an offer he’d have been straight back to Australia and the only other team strongly into him here in Leeds didn’t have a marquee spot left so unlikely we were offering him more as ALL his wage would’ve counted on the cap whereas it’s just £150k at Wigan with him becoming marquee. Plus Leeds had no interest in agreeing to an NRL release clause which made any potential wages irrelevant. Still, makes them/him sound better if they stay he turned down more to go to them even if it isn’t true.


The Wigan board are kings of bad spin.

Hastings joined Wigan as they're essentially offering him a one year contract on very good money. Plus he might have a chance at a trophy which will be next to impossible at Salford next year.
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Re: 2019 Player Ins & Outs : Tue Jul 09, 2019 6:50 pm  
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The Wigan board are kings of bad spin.

Hastings joined Wigan as they're essentially offering him a one year contract on very good money. Plus he might have a chance at a trophy which will be next to impossible at Salford next year.


Wigan have basically signed Hastings for 1 season before the NRL release clause comes into force (IF an NRL club then actually wants to sign him after this time ?)
If not then Wigan could have him for longer (But with the constant threat that Hastings could return home at the drop of a hat when an NRL club comes calling)

IMO Leeds wanted him badly and were even willing to pay a transfer fee to Salford in order to get him in for the remainder of the 2019 season plus for a further guaranteed 3 seasons beyond,But without an NRL release clause!

IMO this is the best decision for the Rhinos at this moment in time.

What happens if Hastings does get the call during pre season of 2021,How will Wigan deal with that at such a late time before the new season?
Or more to the point how would the Rhinos have dealt with this?

Perhaps Wigan fancied the gamble more than the Rhinos did and only time will tell.....Fantastic player though
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Re: 2019 Player Ins & Outs : Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:17 pm  
We would cope fine. McIlorum and Gelling (starting hooker and centre) left us at the start of Jan last year, still ended up lifting the SL atrophy.
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Re: 2019 Player Ins & Outs : Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:41 pm  
Josh Johnson: Barrow Raiders to Salford (Signed for the remainder of the season)
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Re: 2019 Player Ins & Outs : Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:56 am  
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Josh Johnson: Barrow Raiders to Salford (Signed for the remainder of the season)


Not a bad signing, was very highly rated at the Giants it was just unfortunate that he had the likes of Kopczak, Crabtree, Ta'ai etc etc to compete with when he was coming through. Good luck Josh.
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Re: 2019 Player Ins & Outs : Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:32 am  
The Biffs Back wrote:
Wigan have basically signed Hastings for 1 season before the NRL release clause comes into force (IF an NRL club then actually wants to sign him after this time ?)
If not then Wigan could have him for longer (But with the constant threat that Hastings could return home at the drop of a hat when an NRL club comes calling)

IMO Leeds wanted him badly and were even willing to pay a transfer fee to Salford in order to get him in for the remainder of the 2019 season plus for a further guaranteed 3 seasons beyond,But without an NRL release clause!

IMO this is the best decision for the Rhinos at this moment in time.

What happens if Hastings does get the call during pre season of 2021,How will Wigan deal with that at such a late time before the new season?
Or more to the point how would the Rhinos have dealt with this?

Perhaps Wigan fancied the gamble more than the Rhinos did and only time will tell.....Fantastic player though


I think the release clause will come with conditions. There will likely be a time frame where the clause is active. I doubt he will be able to up sticks and go whenever he feels like it
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Re: 2019 Player Ins & Outs : Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:32 am  
The Biffs Back wrote:
Wigan have basically signed Hastings for 1 season before the NRL release clause comes into force (IF an NRL club then actually wants to sign him after this time ?)
If not then Wigan could have him for longer (But with the constant threat that Hastings could return home at the drop of a hat when an NRL club comes calling)

IMO Leeds wanted him badly and were even willing to pay a transfer fee to Salford in order to get him in for the remainder of the 2019 season plus for a further guaranteed 3 seasons beyond,But without an NRL release clause!

IMO this is the best decision for the Rhinos at this moment in time.

What happens if Hastings does get the call during pre season of 2021,How will Wigan deal with that at such a late time before the new season?
Or more to the point how would the Rhinos have dealt with this?

Perhaps Wigan fancied the gamble more than the Rhinos did and only time will tell.....Fantastic player though


I think the release clause will come with conditions. There will likely be a time frame where the clause is active. I doubt he will be able to up sticks and go whenever he feels like it
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Re: 2019 Player Ins & Outs : Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:26 am  
ThePrinter wrote:
Radlinski trying to make out as if f Hastings turned down bigger money elsewhere to join them, who exactly? If an NRL team put in an offer he’d have been straight back to Australia and the only other team strongly into him here in Leeds didn’t have a marquee spot left so unlikely we were offering him more as ALL his wage would’ve counted on the cap whereas it’s just £150k at Wigan with him becoming marquee. Plus Leeds had no interest in agreeing to an NRL release clause which made any potential wages irrelevant. Still, makes them/him sound better if they stay he turned down more to go to them even if it isn’t true.


Well with Tui going and Lui coming in, Watkins not getting marquee there has to be a spot at Leeds. They didnt want an NRL clause in there thats why hes at Wigan. I reckon Leeds offered more to try ofset the clause. The fact Leeds probably offered marqueeprobably tells you there will be 3 marquee spots in SL next year
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