Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Sat Jun 01, 2013 1:59 pm  

JB Down Under wrote: How was the other codes crowds this year? http://www.premiershiprugby.com/stats/attendance.php?includeref=18099&season=2011#18099 It looks like a 0.4% drop for the season. 7740 less fans less in total. Leicester Tigers had 8756 more fans Quins had 475 less fans Saracens had 4593 more fans London Irish had 53560 less fans (That is an incredible drop of around a 1/3 of total attendance) Gloucester had 4872 more fans Northampton had 5234 less fans Bath had 2183 less fans Worcester had 9880 less fans Exeter had 54 more fans Sale had 6702 less fans Wasps had 52486 more fans (again a massive change) and the promoted team had 2430 less than the relegated team. Some crazy changes in there.

JB Down Under wrote: How was the other codes crowds this year? http://www.premiershiprugby.com/stats/attendance.php?includeref=18099&season=2011#18099 It looks like a 0.4% drop for the season. 7740 less fans less in total. Leicester Tigers had 8756 more fans Quins had 475 less fans Saracens had 4593 more fans London Irish had 53560 less fans (That is an incredible drop of around a 1/3 of total attendance) Gloucester had 4872 more fans Northampton had 5234 less fans Bath had 2183 less fans Worcester had 9880 less fans Exeter had 54 more fans Sale had 6702 less fans Wasps had 52486 more fans (again a massive change) and the promoted team had 2430 less than the relegated team. Some crazy changes in there.

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Sat Jun 01, 2013 6:06 pm  

gutterfax wrote:

Bradford V London have offers...

Thanks for the info. On further investigation, it turns out that Bradford are offering heavily discounted tickets for the forthcoming home games against London, Widnes and Catalan Dragons! Hull KR are also offering a "friends for a fiver" deal at tomorrow's home game against Bradford. The increasing urgency this season to avoid chalking up further embarrassing attendances in SL via desperate cheap ticket offers is duly noted.

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Sat Jun 01, 2013 6:14 pm  

JonB95 wrote:

11,901 at Hull last night if you're wondering Willy.

Unfortunately countered by London's attendance at home to Castleford earlier today which was 23.98% down on last year and 56.15% down on 2011.

Hull currently appear to be bucking the trend on attendances which is good news, though it's also worth bearing in mind they did employ a heavily discounted ticket offer of £10 for adults and just £1 for kids for their previous home game against London.

A 1.92% increase on last years attendance against Leeds is a piece of rare good news this year, though it's worth bearing in mind that this particular fixture has attracted attendances of 12,513 and 16,208 in 2011 and 2010 respectively.

More than 75% of SL fixtures this season are reporting lower attendances than last year.

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Sat Jun 01, 2013 7:47 pm  

jimlav wrote: http://www.premiershiprugby.com/stats/attendance.php?includeref=18099&season=2011#18099 It looks like a 0.4% drop for the season. 7740 less fans less in total. Leicester Tigers had 8756 more fans Quins had 475 less fans Saracens had 4593 more fans London Irish had 53560 less fans (That is an incredible drop of around a 1/3 of total attendance) Gloucester had 4872 more fans Northampton had 5234 less fans Bath had 2183 less fans Worcester had 9880 less fans Exeter had 54 more fans Sale had 6702 less fans Wasps had 52486 more fans (again a massive change) and the promoted team had 2430 less than the relegated team. Some crazy changes in there. Some of the clubs have massive changes because they have various 'gimmick / novelty' games at Twickers and Wembley that draw about 8 times their weekly average and therefore skew the whole years average. If they had a gimmick match last year but didn't have one this year, this years average will be down massively.

jimlav wrote: http://www.premiershiprugby.com/stats/attendance.php?includeref=18099&season=2011#18099 It looks like a 0.4% drop for the season. 7740 less fans less in total. Leicester Tigers had 8756 more fans Quins had 475 less fans Saracens had 4593 more fans London Irish had 53560 less fans (That is an incredible drop of around a 1/3 of total attendance) Gloucester had 4872 more fans Northampton had 5234 less fans Bath had 2183 less fans Worcester had 9880 less fans Exeter had 54 more fans Sale had 6702 less fans Wasps had 52486 more fans (again a massive change) and the promoted team had 2430 less than the relegated team. Some crazy changes in there. Some of the clubs have massive changes because they have various 'gimmick / novelty' games at Twickers and Wembley that draw about 8 times their weekly average and therefore skew the whole years average. If they had a gimmick match last year but didn't have one this year, this years average will be down massively.

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Sat Jun 01, 2013 7:49 pm  

William Eve wrote:

Thanks for the info. On further investigation, it turns out that Bradford are offering heavily discounted tickets for the forthcoming home games against London, Widnes and Catalan Dragons! Hull KR are also offering a "friends for a fiver" deal at tomorrow's home game against Bradford. The increasing urgency this season to avoid chalking up further embarrassing attendances in SL via desperate cheap ticket offers is duly noted.

And you think none of these offers took place last year?

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Sat Jun 01, 2013 8:15 pm  

JonB95 wrote:

Some of the clubs have massive changes because they have various 'gimmick / novelty' games at Twickers and Wembley that draw about 8 times their weekly average and therefore skew the whole years average. If they had a gimmick match last year but didn't have one this year, this years average will be down massively.

gimmick and novelty games that are well attended are well wort it......There's a yearly one in the NRL as well

I believe there were 2 AVIVA novelty games this year...63,102 for the doubleheader and a full house for Harlequins on boxing day.

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Sat Jun 01, 2013 8:25 pm  

gutterfax wrote:

gimmick and novelty games that are well attended are well wort it......There's a yearly one in the NRL as well

I believe there were 2 AVIVA novelty games this year...63,102 for the doubleheader and a full house for Harlequins on boxing day.

I agree that they are worth it, if you can get such a massive attendance.

Which NRL match are you classing as novelty, by the way?

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Sat Jun 01, 2013 8:30 pm  

JonB95 wrote:

I agree that they are worth it, if you can get such a massive attendance.

Which NRL match are you classing as novelty, by the way?

Brisbane have hosted a double header for the last 2 seasons....Brisbane v Manly and Bulldogs v Titans in round 10 last year....bulldogs average and Brisbanes include the same attendance.

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Sat Jun 01, 2013 9:31 pm  

William Eve wrote:

Unfortunately countered by London's attendance at home to Castleford earlier today which was 23.98% down on last year and 56.15% down on 2011.

Hull currently appear to be bucking the trend on attendances which is good news, though it's also worth bearing in mind they did employ a heavily discounted ticket offer of £10 for adults and just £1 for kids for their previous home game against London.

A 1.92% increase on last years attendance against Leeds is a piece of rare good news this year, though it's worth bearing in mind that this particular fixture has attracted attendances of 12,513 and 16,208 in 2011 and 2010 respectively.

More than 75% of SL fixtures this season are reporting lower attendances than last year.

The 2010 Hull v Leeds game was the final game of he regular season and at the time we had a 'voucher exchange' system for season ticket holders. People with unused vouchers could exchange them for an extra match ticket. The 2011 game was the opening home fixture of the season.

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Sun Jun 02, 2013 8:02 am  

I have no problem with clubs using marketing strategies to get more people to games. Hopefully some of those who may be getting a taste for SL for the first time will become long term fans. If Rovers would have got 7k and get 8k instead due to the offer then that can only be a good thing.