Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Sun May 26, 2013 8:54 pm  

JonB95 wrote:

31,249 for second day

Moron

My bad......I quoted what Sportinglife had on their site....they've updated it now.

I am still 100% accurate in my belief that the guy stealing a wage as marketing guru at the RFL is currently presiding over a dramatic drop in attendances.....Saracens can fill wembley on their own in an "event" game, the RFL can't get close with their event games.......tickets to Magic are a cheap as they can go, exiles tickets are almost been given away with free shirts and the last mention of RLWC ticket sales was 1,500 sold "en masse" to London RL.....Wembley holds 90,000 BTW

The increasing dependance on SKY TV cash is killing the game in the UK...... it is no coincidence that the successful and profitable/near profitable clubs are the ones averaging 10k+.....fans are drifting as they can watch games on TV....the RFL has a duty to stop this drift, because unless they have the phone numbers of 10 more Dr Cash Cows, the drift will continue, the reliance on TV Cash will become even more dangerous and eventually, you'll end up with a 10 team top tier with the same top 5 every season.

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Sun May 26, 2013 8:57 pm  

Sportinglife has the attendance as 31249 for every match today, 31249+31249+31249 = 93747, divide by 3 = 31249 per game just for today! Wow!

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Sun May 26, 2013 9:00 pm  

gutterfax wrote:

My bad......I quoted what Sportinglife had on their site....they've updated it now.

I am still 100% accurate in my belief that the guy stealing a wage as marketing guru at the RFL is currently presiding over a dramatic drop in attendances.....Saracens can fill wembley on their own in an "event" game, the RFL can't get close with their event games.......tickets to Magic are a cheap as they can go, exiles tickets are almost been given away with free shirts and the last mention of RLWC ticket sales was 1,500 sold "en masse" to London RL.....Wembley holds 90,000 BTW

The increasing dependance on SKY TV cash is killing the game in the UK...... it is no coincidence that the successful and profitable/near profitable clubs are the ones averaging 10k+.....fans are drifting as they can watch games on TV....the RFL has a duty to stop this drift, because unless they have the phone numbers of 10 more Dr Cash Cows, the drift will continue, the reliance on TV Cash will become even more dangerous and eventually, you'll end up with a 10 team top tier with the same top 5 every season.

huge corporation attendance with the casual fans as they probably can relate to union as majority would have played it at school and the fact they was giving out free tickets to any one who would ask for it, everything else i agree with you. The RFL need to put pressure on the lower teams who are not performing not just on the rugby field but off it, in this economy you have to be active not content.

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Sun May 26, 2013 9:03 pm  

two of the biggest derbies in super league was played last year and not this which could quite easily equate for the missing fans... this concept needs stability and hype and it will grow.

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Sun May 26, 2013 9:13 pm  

It's been a while since I checked this thread but I see gutterfax still hasn't realised that Rugby League isn't Rugby Union.

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Sun May 26, 2013 9:18 pm  

gutterfax wrote:

My bad......I quoted what Sportinglife had on their site....they've updated it now.

I am still 100% accurate in my belief that the guy stealing a wage as marketing guru at the RFL is currently presiding over a dramatic drop in attendances.....Saracens can fill wembley on their own in an "event" game, the RFL can't get close with their event games.......tickets to Magic are a cheap as they can go, exiles tickets are almost been given away with free shirts and the last mention of RLWC ticket sales was 1,500 sold "en masse" to London RL.....Wembley holds 90,000 BTW

The increasing dependance on SKY TV cash is killing the game in the UK...... it is no coincidence that the successful and profitable/near profitable clubs are the ones averaging 10k+.....fans are drifting as they can watch games on TV....the RFL has a duty to stop this drift, because unless they have the phone numbers of 10 more Dr Cash Cows, the drift will continue, the reliance on TV Cash will become even more dangerous and eventually, you'll end up with a 10 team top tier with the same top 5 every season.

Why did you have to mention Saracens to ruin an otherwise good post?

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Sun May 26, 2013 9:26 pm  

MjM wrote:

It's been a while since I checked this thread but I see gutterfax still hasn't realised that Rugby League isn't Rugby Union.

Rugby League needs to learn from Rugby Union in the UK and fast!

Union is slower, less dynamic, riddled with stupid and intricate rules and interpretations and is generally very confusing, especially to the first time viewer, yet the people employed to polish this turd are experts.

The Aviva Premiership averages 47% more fans than the SL, the Heineken Cup averages nearly 6 times the average of the Challenge Cup and internationally.....well, let's just say that 11 x 82,000 in 1 year is a lot more than England RL can muster in a decade or maybe even 2.

The current decline in attendances in Top Tier RL in the UK is the responsibility of the RFL and the clubs themselves....I would say that 5 clubs are pulling their weight whilst the other 9 and the RFL are doing the opposite.

I know that Union isn't league by the way.......same way I understand the concept of reality, which a good few so called RL Fans seem to have trouble with.

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Sun May 26, 2013 9:28 pm  

gutterfax wrote:

Rugby League needs to learn from Rugby Union in the UK and fast!

Union is slower, less dynamic, riddled with stupid and intricate rules and interpretations and is generally very confusing, especially to the first time viewer, yet the people employed to polish this turd are experts.

The Aviva Premiership averages 47% more fans than the SL, the Heineken Cup averages nearly 6 times the average of the Challenge Cup and internationally.....well, let's just say that 11 x 82,000 in 1 year is a lot more than England RL can muster in a decade or maybe even 2.

The current decline in attendances in Top Tier RL in the UK is the responsibility of the RFL and the clubs themselves....I would say that 5 clubs are pulling their weight whilst the other 9 and the RFL are doing the opposite.

I know that Union isn't league by the way.......same way I understand the concept of reality, which a good few so called RL Fans seem to have trouble with.

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Cracking last game though, wasn't it?

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Sun May 26, 2013 9:40 pm  

JonB95 wrote:

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Cracking last game though, wasn't it?

Alas, I was asleep. I will watch the events unfold on Maori TV later in the week.....Superleague with Maori commentary is a unique experience

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Sun May 26, 2013 9:56 pm  

gutterfax wrote:

Union is slower, less dynamic, riddled with stupid and intricate rules and interpretations and is generally very confusing, especially to the first time viewer, yet the people employed to polish this turd are experts.

Are they? Or is it a far easier job?

gutterfax wrote:

The Aviva Premiership averages 47% more fans than the SL, the Heineken Cup averages nearly 6 times the average of the Challenge Cup and internationally.....well, let's just say that 11 x 82,000 in 1 year is a lot more than England RL can muster in a decade or maybe even 2.

No it doesn't. The Aviva Premiership averaged nearly 12,500 last year. SL averaged roughly 10,500. That's a 19% higher average for the Aviva Premiership, which includes several one-off games at Twickers and Wembley and is somewhat distorted by high crowds at Leicester.
As for the Heineken Cup it averaged nearly 13,500 in 2012/13. Is the Challenge Cup average really only 2,250? Is it a valid comparison? An elite pro only cup compared to a cup involving amateur teams?
Internationally they're out of sight, but aren't that far ahead domestically. They have similar struggles to RL in domestic terms. As evidenced by the dearth (and slow death) of northern union teams.

gutterfax wrote:

The current decline in attendances in Top Tier RL in the UK is the responsibility of the RFL and the clubs themselves....I would say that 5 clubs are pulling their weight whilst the other 9 and the RFL are doing the opposite.

Until this season attendances had been increasing. I'd agree on some clubs not pulling their weight but I'd also suggest the clubs mismanagement and the economy is having a far greater impact upon RL than anything the RFL may be doing wrong.