Re: Mergers : Sat Sep 01, 2018 2:09 pm  

Halifax playing in a Greater Manchester team
And why should Bradford survive as a separate entity but Warrington don’t? The same for Saints.

I just don’t see an arbitrary mix of town clubs and regional clubs working at all. It would kill the game stone dead to remove all those rivalries. Who in the works is going to want to watch Toronto vs Greater Manchester?

Re: Mergers : Sat Sep 01, 2018 2:10 pm  

Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza wrote:

The game needs a massive shake up if it’s not going to die. A competition that embraces the sport’s past and the brave new world.

Superleague needs the teams below - properly funded and supported by feeder teams in the lower divisions or it will wither and die. Time that selfish people stopped thinking about themselves.

Toronto
Toulouse
Catalans
New York
London
Coventry
Newcastle
Bradford
Leeds
St Helens
Wigan


Plus merged teams:

Merseyside (incorporating Warrington and Widnes)

West Yorkshire (incorporating Castleford, Wakefield, Huddersfield, Dewsbury, Batley, Keighley, Hunslet and Featherstone).

Greater Manchester (incorporating Salford, Swinton, Leigh, Rochdale, Oldham and Halifax)

Humberside (incorporating Hull and Hull KR)

This will appeal to fans outside of the current base plus sponsors and tv.

This brave vision will save the sport from oblivion.

Heed my words.

You're mixing a location based argument with one that includes 4 existing teams in a competing area with the the merged teams. I don't agree with mergers, and in my opinion would kill the game off (none of us actually know what would happen, but we can all have an opinion), but to go with this logic, then there'd be no place for Leeds, Bradford, Saints and Wigan in this new structure. You could possibly have a Liverpool-centric club and a Manchester one, with West Yorkshire and Hull on the other side of the Pennines.

I assume it's just a wind-up from a Bulls fan to suggest that Fax should be a part of a Greater Manchester merged team.

Re: Mergers : Sat Sep 01, 2018 2:22 pm  

HXSparky wrote:

You're mixing a location based argument with one that includes 4 existing teams in a competing area with the the merged teams. I don't agree with mergers, and in my opinion would kill the game off (none of us actually know what would happen, but we can all have an opinion), but to go with this logic, then there'd be no place for Leeds, Bradford, Saints and Wigan in this new structure. You could possibly have a Liverpool-centric club and a Manchester one, with West Yorkshire and Hull on the other side of the Pennines.

I assume it's just a wind-up from a Bulls fan to suggest that Fax should be a part of a Greater Manchester merged team.

I thought it was really well thought out

Coventry and Newcastle are barely fledgling clubs, New York are just someones wet dream and Toulouse make Fev look like a big club but, yeah, lets destroy 4/5 current heartland clubs to accommodate them, it makes great sense

Look, IF we are serious about getting say, Newcastle up to speed and somewhere near SL ready, the very least that should be happening is having Magic up there for the next 4/5 years and some proper marketing on the back of it.

In the same way that The Skolars take advantage of The Challenge cup, there could be a ticket for a Newcastle fixture either discounted or includes in the Magic Ticket (based on postcode or something) to try and encourage the locals or something that allowed fans to attend the game on the following weekend and try to find whether there is genuine appetite for RL in the North East BUT, this has to happen before any talk of just elevating them to the top tier.

Re: Mergers : Sat Sep 01, 2018 2:30 pm  

HXSparky wrote:

I assume it's just a wind-up from a Bulls fan to suggest that Fax should be a part of a Greater Manchester merged team.

Look fax have done very well this season but are a long way off competing at the top of superleague. As part of an amalgamated area side for greater Manchester they might be able too


Don’t you want to see your team up there? Show some ambition!

Re: Mergers : Sat Sep 01, 2018 3:42 pm  

Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza wrote:

Look fax have done very well this season but are a long way off competing at the top of superleague. As part of an amalgamated area side for greater Manchester they might be able too


Don’t you want to see your team up there? Show some ambition!

Surely Halifax should be in with Huddersfield and Bradford, my gran could throw a tablecloth over all three with them being so close together yet, you decide that, not only do they need to merge but, they need to move counties.

Re: Mergers : Sat Sep 01, 2018 6:30 pm  

[quote="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"]Look fax have done very well this season but are a long way off competing at the top of superleague. As part of an amalgamated area side for greater Manchester they might be able too


Don’t you want to see your team up there? Show some ambition![/quote]




So currently you’d join 6 clubs to make one have 3 current league 1 clubs as SL clubs I know your a Bradford fan but come on your not certain to go up you’ve got no money few fans and you play out of a dump you should merge with Leeds and hunslet and finally there’s no such place as humberside

Re: Mergers : Sat Sep 01, 2018 6:56 pm  

Why do people think mergers would be successful in any way and actually result in two (or more) sets of fans - probably rivals for the last century - uniting behind one team? As I said in 1995, if Warrington merge with Widnes they won't be my team anymore and I won't support them. If we take them over like Huddersfield and Hull did then that's different, but that's not really merging, it's just killing one club. Creating a new Cheshire franchise or whatever you want to call it would kill two clubs. Call it backward thinking all you like, but sporting passions are partisan, tribal, and deep rooted.

No merges. Ever. The end.

Re: Mergers : Sat Sep 01, 2018 7:03 pm  

Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza wrote:

The game needs a massive shake up if it’s not going to die. A competition that embraces the sport’s past and the brave new world.

Superleague needs the teams below - properly funded and supported by feeder teams in the lower divisions or it will wither and die. Time that selfish people stopped thinking about themselves.

Toronto
Toulouse
Catalans
New York
London
Coventry
Newcastle
Bradford
Leeds
St Helens
Wigan


Plus merged teams:

Merseyside (incorporating Warrington and Widnes)

West Yorkshire (incorporating Castleford, Wakefield, Huddersfield, Dewsbury, Batley, Keighley, Hunslet and Featherstone).

Greater Manchester (incorporating Salford, Swinton, Leigh, Rochdale, Oldham and Halifax)

Humberside (incorporating Hull and Hull KR)

This will appeal to fans outside of the current base plus sponsors and tv.

This brave vision will save the sport from oblivion.

Heed my words.

what a load of rubbish, nut make sure you include your own failed club in your top league! what makes you think all those that walked away will come back, but you would quite happily get rid of two teams in one city that has 18000+ fans that attend both clubs

deluded!

Re: Mergers : Sat Sep 01, 2018 7:09 pm  

[quote="Dropkick Murphy"]Why do people think mergers would be successful in any way and actually result in two (or more) sets of fans - probably rivals for the last century - uniting behind one team? As I said in 1995, if Warrington merge with Widnes they won't be my team anymore and I won't support them. If we take them over like Huddersfield and Hull did then that's different, but that's not really merging, it's just killing one club. Creating a new Cheshire franchise or whatever you want to call it would kill two clubs. Call it backward thinking all you like, but sporting passions are partisan, tribal, and deep rooted.

No merges. Ever. The end.[/quote]




Totally agree I wouldn’t support a merged club it doesn’t work

Re: Mergers : Sat Sep 01, 2018 7:31 pm  

Dropkick Murphy wrote:

Why do people think mergers would be successful in any way....

They don't, it is as ever....a wind up thread