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JEAN CAPDOUZE wrote:
Salford, Widnes, and either Wakefield or Hull KR. (My preference is Wakefield go down because of their paltry fan base and dreadful ground).

That would make a fantastic Super League:

Wigan
St Helens
Warrington

Leeds
Hull FC
Hull KR
Huddersfield
Castleford

London

Catalans
Toulouse

Toronto


That would leave room for future expansion to include New York and Boston in a 14 team Super League, and later Montreal and Avignon in a 16 team Super League, and even later possibly Philadelphia and Paris in an 18 team Super League. Once we got to the 14 team situation I have described, the media in Britain and France would start to sit up and take notice of Super League. By the time we get to 16 teams the same will happen to the media in north America. However this scenario assumes two major developments:

(1) a switch to licencing from P & R by the RFL.

(2) a recruitment of majority local players from the expansion countries, because there aren't enough quality English or Antipodean players to fill 16 or 18 SL teams.
Toulouse is showing that this is no pie-in-the-sky regarding France, because they now have a large majority of French players. They only need a couple more Antipodeans to compete well in Super League. Toulouse's ascent into Super League will attract more French youth away from rugby union and into our game. The same thing will happen, though more slowly perhaps, in the case of the north American teams.




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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES?????
£20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000.
The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover.

There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT:

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Brilliantly reasoned rebuttal.

Current average attendances for homes games in 2018........I suspect anything south of 5k has no place at the top table so London and Toulouse are non-starters and Toronto need to declare real gates this year and no la la land ones......

Catalans 7,551
Huddersfield 5,794
Widnes 5,351
Wakefield 5,112

Salford 3,421
Leigh 3,644
Featherstone 2,405
Toulouse 2,134
Halifax 1,741
London 1,072
Toronto 0... :lol:
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You may laugh but it’s likley Toronto will top your attendance table come the end of the season, despite been an expansion club in the Championship.

That’s pretty poor for the Super League clubs that have been around for 100+ years.
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JEAN CAPDOUZE wrote:
Salford, Widnes, and either Wakefield or Hull KR. (My preference is Wakefield go down because of their paltry fan base and dreadful ground).

That would make a fantastic Super League:

Wigan
St Helens
Warrington

Leeds
Hull FC
Hull KR
Huddersfield
Castleford

London

Catalans
Toulouse

Toronto


That would leave room for future expansion to include New York and Boston in a 14 team Super League, and later Montreal and Avignon in a 16 team Super League, and even later possibly Philadelphia and Paris in an 18 team Super League. Once we got to the 14 team situation I have described, the media in Britain and France would start to sit up and take notice of Super League. By the time we get to 16 teams the same will happen to the media in north America. However this scenario assumes two major developments:

(1) a switch to licencing from P & R by the RFL.

(2) a recruitment of majority local players from the expansion countries, because there aren't enough quality English or Antipodean players to fill 16 or 18 SL teams.
Toulouse is showing that this is no pie-in-the-sky regarding France, because they now have a large majority of French players. They only need a couple more Antipodeans to compete well in Super League. Toulouse's ascent into Super League will attract more French youth away from rugby union and into our game. The same thing will happen, though more slowly perhaps, in the case of the north American teams.



FFS! Someone get him sectioned before he invades Poland!
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FFS! Someone get him sectioned before he invades Poland!


Brilliant. :lol: :lol:
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JEAN CAPDOUZE wrote:
He is not telling the truth. He is talking paranoid rubbish.

JEAN CAPDOUZE wrote:
Salford, Widnes, and either Wakefield or Hull KR. (My preference is Wakefield go down because of their paltry fan base and dreadful ground).

That would make a fantastic Super League:

Wigan
St Helens
Warrington

Leeds
Hull FC
Hull KR
Huddersfield
Castleford

London

Catalans
Toulouse

Toronto


That would leave room for future expansion to include New York and Boston in a 14 team Super League, and later Montreal and Avignon in a 16 team Super League, and even later possibly Philadelphia and Paris in an 18 team Super League. Once we got to the 14 team situation I have described, the media in Britain and France would start to sit up and take notice of Super League. By the time we get to 16 teams the same will happen to the media in north America. However this scenario assumes two major developments:

(1) a switch to licencing from P & R by the RFL.

(2) a recruitment of majority local players from the expansion countries, because there aren't enough quality English or Antipodean players to fill 16 or 18 SL teams.
Toulouse is showing that this is no pie-in-the-sky regarding France, because they now have a large majority of French players. They only need a couple more Antipodeans to compete well in Super League. Toulouse's ascent into Super League will attract more French youth away from rugby union and into our game. The same thing will happen, though more slowly perhaps, in the case of the north American teams.


How many British players are on Toronto's books...20 i think.

That's them out of your SL charade then
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He is not telling the truth. He is talking paranoid rubbish.

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FFS! Someone get him sectioned before he invades Poland!



He may have a house there he has forgotten about.
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FFS! Someone get him sectioned before he invades Poland!
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Toulouse just annihilated Barrow (who beat 2017 Super League side Leigh)

Toulouse racked up 50 points with 9 different try scorers.
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