Re: Further changes to Super League : Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:10 pm  

Biff Tannen wrote:

Well, i will meet you half way and say bottom SL team relegated and 13th SL vs 2nd in Championship for MPG..deal?

I'm always up for a deal, go on then, we'll go with that

Re: Further changes to Super League : Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:23 pm  

But attendances are lower in the super 8's compared to rounds 1-23, so the having something to play for theory doesn't fit.

Re: Further changes to Super League : Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:34 pm  

Why not just leave it 12 teams in SL get rid of the 8's automatic 1 up 1 down 11th SL v 2nd Champ. for million pound.

Re: Further changes to Super League : Tue Jun 20, 2017 8:12 pm  

Why are people obsessed about a million pound game?

13 teams, one straight up and 1 down. Not fair on any Championship club to play a full season just to get smashed in one game.

Can't help but think this is all to protect Catalans and embrace Toronto.

Re: Further changes to Super League : Tue Jun 20, 2017 8:23 pm  

Sir Kevin Sinfield wrote: Super League could be expanding to 14 teams again as soon as 2018. While I think the constant chopping and changing of our league structure is bad, reducing from 14 to 12 teams in the first place was a mistake and should be reversed. The Super 8's hasn't worked with attendances down for these games. 14 teams would allow us to go back to 27 rounds with home and away + magic, with fixtures known from the start of the season. The top 4 play off system and million pound game could still be kept with a straight play off game between top of the championship and bottom Super League club. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theg ... gby-league Oh aye top four play off, and a million pound match, with teams 5-13 nothing to play off, yes what a ingenious idea to boost attendances, have you ever thought of applying to the RFL? You should do, you'd fit in with the rest of the morons.

Sir Kevin Sinfield wrote: Super League could be expanding to 14 teams again as soon as 2018. While I think the constant chopping and changing of our league structure is bad, reducing from 14 to 12 teams in the first place was a mistake and should be reversed. The Super 8's hasn't worked with attendances down for these games. 14 teams would allow us to go back to 27 rounds with home and away + magic, with fixtures known from the start of the season. The top 4 play off system and million pound game could still be kept with a straight play off game between top of the championship and bottom Super League club. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theg ... gby-league Oh aye top four play off, and a million pound match, with teams 5-13 nothing to play off, yes what a ingenious idea to boost attendances, have you ever thought of applying to the RFL? You should do, you'd fit in with the rest of the morons.

Re: Further changes to Super League : Tue Jun 20, 2017 9:05 pm  

We moved from 14 but didnt try to consolidate the talent we had. When we cut from 14 to 12, Bradford and London carried on being ostensibly full time, and Leigh became full time with Halifax and Sheffield and fev get a bit nearer to it. So we went from 14 to 12 in SL but went from 14 to 15 full time sides with a couple more playing at it.

Since then we have seen Hull KR and Leigh swap, Bradford Fax and Sheffield are probably further away from full-time but we have seen Toulouse get pretty close full time and the addition of Toronto.

I dont think the move to 14 would have the detrimental effect of spreading the talent that much more thinly because we never got the benefits of consolidation. However: A return to straight P+R will see what we have already seen, clubs overspending and going bust trying to go up, and youth development being ignored by those trying to avoid going down, short term thinking and the drop-off in crowds in the 'relegation battle'

I don't really know what the further investigations they are doing are for, we know what P+R does we know what 14 sides does. We have had them both pretty recently and lets be honest, nobody is looking back at 2014 as the shining city on the hill are they?

There is only one answer and we knew it 20 years ago and the quickest way to get where we need to be: Merge with the NRL.

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Re: Further changes to Super League : Tue Jun 20, 2017 9:12 pm  

I like it how it is.

Re: Further changes to Super League : Tue Jun 20, 2017 9:43 pm  

if it increased to 14 or even left as is then all teams in SL must be made to have an academy and also look to setting up a reserve team league in the near future. We really need to increase the player pool and not just jettison the players over 19 yrs old who are not quite ready for 1st team rugby week in week out

Re: Further changes to Super League : Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:29 pm  

How about up to 14. Top 8 in a playoff system similar to the NRL. Bottom 3 super league and top 3 championship, similar to the current middle 8's. Top 3 of mini round robin take super league spots the year after.

It means 11 of the 14 teams are involved all the way through and 9th, 10th and 11th are going to be in the mix right up to the end. It also gives those teams in the lower league a good chance to build as does the middle 8's now and give them a good chance to step up as Leigh have.

Re: Further changes to Super League : Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:17 am  

The ideal is for hopeful Hull KR and laudable London to get promoted to Super League in 2018 at expense of lowly Leigh and witless Widnes.

Then in 2018 end P & R and reintroduce licencing.

Finally in 2019 it will be necessary to promote terrific Toulouse and turbocharged Toronto into Super League and make it 14 clubs.

Leeds
Huddersfield
Hull FC
Hull KR
Wakefield
Castleford
Wigan
St Helens
Warrington
Salford

London
Catalans
Toulouse
Toronto


Then in 2019 put woeful Wakefield and silly Salford on notice that unless they get a modern stadium (Wakefield) and average home crowds over 5,000 (Salford and Wakefield) they will be relegated in favour of Montreal and perhaps Avignon or Sheffield. At least one of those clubs will have to go to make way for Montreal by 2022.