Re: BBC : Wed Sep 23, 2015 1:33 pm  

How does boxing get by!

They've just removed head guards from amateur boxing!

Re: BBC : Wed Sep 23, 2015 1:36 pm  

bren2k wrote:

I don't suppose risk of death is the only thing that players need to be protected from though; the long term effects of repeated concussion can be life-changing, and could see the governing body of either code in hot water if they can't be seen to have done everything reasonably practicable to remove or mitigate that risk.

I imagine it's only a matter of time before one or more players of either code bring some form of action against the governing body; hasn't that already happened in the NFL?

No it hasn't. Sport has inherent risk and you accept that risk if you decide to play the sport. The NFL case was due to the NFL not informing the players of evidence they had of danger of repeated concussions therefore not giving players an opportunity to make an informed decision about taking the risk. Concussions still happen in the NFL. They still allow the shoulder charge, despite RL saying it is a major issue. It is I a sports interest to minimise risk to a point but if you wanted to reduce risk significantly in RL you would need to start playing flag or touch, most injuries happen in legitimate tackles.

Re: BBC : Thu Sep 24, 2015 9:43 am  

While I'm not dismissing the effects of repeated concussions, the cases of individuals who've suffered the type of long term condition shown in the programme are few and very far between.

I've been involved in Rugby League all my life, I myself have played at many different levels and know hundreds of friends who've played international, SL, NRL and amateur. I would struggle to name 4 or 5 that have any type of mental condition and it is debatable whether it was caused by Rugby League.

The issues are very real for those individuals who do suffer reactions to being concussed, so I'm not diminishing those cases.

However
The programme makers, sports scientists and doctors are doing what they always do and sensationalising their work with over the top reactions.

How does football escape this argument, the number of times you see a clash of heads in football is greater than either Rugby code. The damage caused by repeated heading of the ball must be more significant than that of the whiplash effect of collisions in Rugby. I for one would not want to get my head under a ball that's been launched 70 metres downfield by the opposition Goalkeeper.

Boxing, I love the sport but come on..
If we're having a discussion about the effects of concussion on sportsmen and women then it has to start with Boxing, UFC etc.

As someone said earlier this smacks of a smug BBC journalist trying to make a name for themselves by timing this oversensationalised programme with the start of ITVs Rugby World Cup.

Re: BBC : Thu Sep 24, 2015 1:07 pm  

The Avenger wrote:

While I'm not dismissing the effects of repeated concussions, the cases of individuals who've suffered the type of long term condition shown in the programme are few and very far between.

I've been involved in Rugby League all my life, I myself have played at many different levels and know hundreds of friends who've played international, SL, NRL and amateur. I would struggle to name 4 or 5 that have any type of mental condition and it is debatable whether it was caused by Rugby League.

The issues are very real for those individuals who do suffer reactions to being concussed, so I'm not diminishing those cases.

However
The programme makers, sports scientists and doctors are doing what they always do and sensationalising their work with over the top reactions.

How does football escape this argument, the number of times you see a clash of heads in football is greater than either Rugby code. The damage caused by repeated heading of the ball must be more significant than that of the whiplash effect of collisions in Rugby. I for one would not want to get my head under a ball that's been launched 70 metres downfield by the opposition Goalkeeper.

Boxing, I love the sport but come on..
If we're having a discussion about the effects of concussion on sportsmen and women then it has to start with Boxing, UFC etc.

As someone said earlier this smacks of a smug BBC journalist trying to make a name for themselves by timing this oversensationalised programme with the start of ITVs Rugby World Cup.

All the sports listed are nowhere near as dangerous as horse riding, which Her Majesty still does at 89 without a hat!

Re: BBC : Thu Sep 24, 2015 1:17 pm  

Dally wrote:

All the sports listed are nowhere near as dangerous as horse riding, which Her Majesty still does at 89 without a hat!

As does the Duke of Edinburgh who's even older. All those head-first landings clearly did him no harm.

Re: BBC : Mon Oct 05, 2015 4:11 pm  

A very positive RL story on the Beeb: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-34440600

A very positive RL story on the Beeb: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-34440600

Re: BBC : Mon Oct 12, 2015 2:14 am  

BroncOnIon wrote:

Bill Beaumont. Did he say he's not affected at all by head injuries? If so, there must be some other explanation for the fact that I came across him at Schipol airport about 20 years ago with the woman on the KLM ticket desk having to explain to him that he wasn't in the right place to check in for his flight.

Bills facial features certainly tell a story of a man who taken some shots.

Re: BBC : Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:59 am  

Pleased to see there's a special section on their website for English Rugby.
Just been on there but I can't find any news about the 24 man squad announcement or the upcoming fixtures against France and NZ.

Re: BBC : Mon Oct 12, 2015 3:27 pm  

BroncOnIon wrote:

Bill Beaumont. Did he say he's not affected at all by head injuries? If so, there must be some other explanation for the fact that I came across him at Schipol airport about 20 years ago with the woman on the KLM ticket desk having to explain to him that he wasn't in the right place to check in for his flight.

Bill Beaumont retired as a result of head injuries.

Re: BBC : Tue Oct 13, 2015 1:09 pm  

alleycat wrote:

Bill Beaumont retired as a result of head injuries.

He's probably forgotten that himself, what with all the head injuries