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Odemwingie wrote:
I hope his career is over.(regarding danny mcguires injury 2010 play offs)

Ewwenorfolk wrote:
I'm glad McGuire got injured, hope he's out for about 10 months

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Price, Civ, Beaver, Moz and Wiki. Peacock is not in the catagory of these special players.

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To be fair, their teams are also inconsequential to their own fans judging by the amount of traffic that all the other boards get

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If you win the weekly rounds then without doubt you are the champions.

WARRIORCRAIG wrote:
But this simplistic view of "the NRL is loads better than SL and he can't hack it" is well wide of the mark IMO.
for a bloke on top money he can't hack it so far. He's on Inglis, Slater, Hayne money. He simply can't player at their level. It maybe a case of needing more time but he won't get much. If he's not doing the business week in week out and has lost a huge amount of bloopers from his game by mid next season he will be gone IMO.
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Name me NZW player that's looked great this year!
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Buggo wrote:
In the local Aussie media today.

"Broncos fullback Ben Barba humiliated Sam Tomkins beating him both for speed and strength to burst past him and the fend him off twice to score with 20 minutes to go"


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... z35JNPaxPY


"humiliated" is the right word. I have not seen a more humiliating incident than this in many, many years of watching rugby league. To be honest, I actually felt sorry for Sam Tomkins, which is something that I never thought that I would ever feel before this weekend.
Buggo wrote:
In the local Aussie media today.

"Broncos fullback Ben Barba humiliated Sam Tomkins beating him both for speed and strength to burst past him and the fend him off twice to score with 20 minutes to go"


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... z35JNPaxPY


"humiliated" is the right word. I have not seen a more humiliating incident than this in many, many years of watching rugby league. To be honest, I actually felt sorry for Sam Tomkins, which is something that I never thought that I would ever feel before this weekend.
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Name me NZW player that's looked great this year!


Shaun Johnson, Konrad Hurrell, Ngani Lmape, Simon Mannering, Nathan Friend and Ben Matulino for starters.
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JEAN CAPDOUZE wrote:
Shaun Johnson, Konrad Hurrell, Ngani Lmape, Simon Mannering, Nathan Friend and Ben Matulino for starters.


None of them have been particularly great this year and none have been significantly better than Tomkins either

Try again!
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JEAN CAPDOUZE wrote:
"humiliated" is the right word. I have not seen a more humiliating incident than this in many, many years of watching rugby league. To be honest, I actually felt sorry for Sam Tomkins, which is something that I never thought that I would ever feel before this weekend.


Yeah cos Ben Barba has never beaten a defender on the outside before has he, FFS give yourself an uppercut!
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Tomkins is getting challenged by far better players than he's used to in new ways. He will learn from this and kick on. He cannot learn it without being up against it. These are new challenges.

I hope he kicks on.
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Wellsy13 wrote:
Tomkins is getting challenged by far better players than he's used to in new ways. He will learn from this and kick on. He cannot learn it without being up against it. These are new challenges.

I hope he kicks on.


About the only sane post in this thread. sgtwilko is an embarrassing Leeds muppet.
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He's been poor in defence, and just average in attack... He's certainly not providing enough 'bang for the bucks' considering he's one of the top earners.

One of the glaring things I've noticed is that he seems reluctant to take on the line, particularly from kick returns or from dummy half. In superleague he ripped defences apart with kick returns, and with scoots following quick play the balls, but he's just shovelling the ball on at the moment in these situations for the Warriors. Add to that, the fact that the 'out the back' play that made him so successful at Wigan is easily defended in the NRL, and that explains why he's struggling in attack.

The defences are far too organised and good in the NRL for him at the moment. In superleague, a wirey, quick and deceptively strong runner playing in a dominating team is too much for the defences to handle, in the NRL that's simply not enough - plus the Warriors are far from dominating.

Hopefully he'll continue to learn and get better and grow the confidence to back himself and take on the defences more - I'm not sure his strengths will be enough though - to be a top fullback in the NRL, you need to be much more than just a decent runner.

In defence, he's a mile away from being even average - he needs to start putting his body on the line, at least he'd get some respect for making the effort, at times he's looked as though he's scared to tackle some of the big boys.

Also, where's his attitude gone? He was a bit abrasive in SL, and was happy to dish out verbals and niggle - he looks intimidated in the NRL.
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Tomlins needs to look at his technique this attempted tackle was pathetic.

Its at 1.00 minute into the video clip.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/league/101 ... he-Broncos
Tomlins needs to look at his technique this attempted tackle was pathetic.

Its at 1.00 minute into the video clip.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/league/101 ... he-Broncos
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