Re: Danny McGuire's disallowed try : Sat Jul 02, 2011 12:05 am  

Mr.Side wrote:

:STUPID:

This could then be when a player drops it, let it bounce for a split second and then kick it...

PLAYYYYYYYYYY ON

Didnt know you guys in Yorkshire made up new rules.. you better ask Clarkey first if the rugby gods will allow them though.

So you don't agree that he let go of the ball intending to kick it?

Re: Danny McGuire's disallowed try : Sat Jul 02, 2011 12:10 am  

Steve Fox wrote:

So you don't agree that he let go of the ball intending to kick it?

Cannot tell if it was for that or if Sam had forced an error - However the ball then hit the floor and its classed as a knock on unfortunately.

Re: Danny McGuire's disallowed try : Sat Jul 02, 2011 12:12 am  

Mr.Side wrote:

Cannot tell if it was for that or if Sam had forced an error - However the ball then hit the floor and its classed as a knock on unfortunately.

Are all Wigan fans on first name terms with the players?

Re: Danny McGuire's disallowed try : Sat Jul 02, 2011 12:14 am  

prop joe wrote:

Are all Wigan fans on first name terms with the players?

Having 3 brothers in the first team squad makes it easier to call them by their first name than their second.

Anything else?

Re: Danny McGuire's disallowed try : Sat Jul 02, 2011 12:20 am  

No try for me. Clearly hit the ground then kicked it. I was under the impression that a drop goal is when the player kicks the ball the same time as the ball hits the ground otherwise couldn't you let the ball have one bounce and then hit it?

I still remember in 1997 away to London broncos James lowes was denied what could have been the match winning try because the ball hit the floor just before he kicked it.

Also if you lose control of the ball and kick it before it hits the floor i'm pretty sure it's still technically a knock on. i remember getting pulled on this a few years ago but can't fully recall.

Re: Danny McGuire's disallowed try : Sat Jul 02, 2011 12:41 am  

lets be honest...wigan got all the decisions tonight......

they didnt play well and they were helped by quite a few decisions from the officials.

i watched the game with a neutral view tonight..... wigan got away with some very dubious decisions.

it was a shame really.... it was a great game of rugby.... hand on heart i thought leeds did enough to win.... some very debatable calls for a few wigan tries.

thats rugby league though.

Re: Danny McGuire's disallowed try : Sat Jul 02, 2011 12:59 am  

I am not a neutral , but ..

Let's say that Sam was attempting a grubber kick , and just after he dropped the ball (with the intention of kicking it) Danny tackled himfrom behind WHEN HE DIDN't HAVE HOLD OF THE BALL . Is that a foul by Danny for tackling him when he didn't have the ball ? is it a penalty try ? He clearly (as it turned out) would have scored despite the foul .

Thoughts ..

Re: Danny McGuire's disallowed try : Sat Jul 02, 2011 1:12 am  

Sam had every right to tackle him there, he still had the ball in his hands when Sam dived to tackle him.

Re: Danny McGuire's disallowed try : Sat Jul 02, 2011 7:14 am  

Rovers scored a try from a drop/grubber kick against Leeds in our first super league season. It went to the video ref that day and was given as a try. Everyone in the commentary box seemed fine with the decision and there seemed to be no controversy about it. Just shows the inconsistency again in the decisions.

Re: Danny McGuire's disallowed try : Sat Jul 02, 2011 7:31 am  

morleys_deckchair wrote:

lets be honest...wigan got all the decisions tonight......

they didnt play well and they were helped by quite a few decisions from the officials.

i watched the game with a neutral view tonight..... wigan got away with some very dubious decisions.

it was a shame really.... it was a great game of rugby.... hand on heart i thought leeds did enough to win.... some very debatable calls for a few wigan tries.

thats rugby league though.

I thought there were quite a few decisions that would have rattled each team. Alibert had a bit of a stinker, but then I fully expected that having not jumped on the "Alibert is the greatest ref ever to have lived" bandwagon that seemed spring up this season. Apart from his fitness he's got nowt. And if it weren't for the touch judge advising him (touch judge doing his job eh?) he would have awarded a try to McGuire and we'd be saying Wigan were robbed by bad reffing.

I agree with you about Leeds, and said to the missus in the final minutes that they'd done enough to win; then again, by the same token, with a scoreline like that Wigan obviously did enough to not lose. Neither side dominated the other enough to claim a clear victory.