Re: Toulouse v Saints : Sun Mar 20, 2022 12:00 am  

Mild Rover wrote:

Saints will look after Saints’ interests.

If stuff like this spares the rest of us guidance on how the clubs we support should be run ‘in the right way’, then it is good news all round.

Edit. In fairness, it wasn’t that much of an under-strength team. Perception often matters more than the reality in these things though.

Good result for Toulouse.

Bang on, totally agree.

Re: Toulouse v Saints : Sun Mar 20, 2022 1:10 am  

Saddened! wrote:

'done for'

Well you've lost every time you've played what people consider
to be a weak team. - it's probably most of your recent losses in the last 3 years.

Put that side out for 8 weeks and let's see where you are at the end of it.

Re: Toulouse v Saints : Sun Mar 20, 2022 8:40 am  

Egg Chasing wrote:

Well you've lost every time you've played what people consider
to be a weak team. - it's probably most of your recent losses in the last 3 years.

Put that side out for 8 weeks and let's see where you are at the end of it.

The season 2018 was our injury one losing Walmsley for most of the season with injuries to our centres Percival and Morgan and forward Douglas. We finished top of the league that year by a 10 point margin to win the hub cap.
We,ve had plenty of injury years prior to our threepeat and most of the time finished in the top 4 excluding the Cunningham Coach Year.

The side that Saints put out yesterday is good enough but had an off day and congrats toToulouse who took full advantage, well done to them.

Its the old adage: The more you keep on winning the closer you get to losing one.

Re: Toulouse v Saints : Sun Mar 20, 2022 11:12 am  

Saddened! wrote:

It's going to be an interesting game on Saturday. Toulouse look to be improving after a shocking opening. Saints could be set to take half a team over there. No Walmsley, Mata'utia, Batchelor or Grace. Welsby, Makinson and Lomax also carrying knocks plus a rumoured three unvaccinated players. If the unvaccinated players aren't amongst those injured/being rested, it could be a lineup worthy of a pre-season testimonial.

Saints have history at doing this against the bottom team as well, with London picking up two victories over us in their last season in Super League. Hull KR fans in particular weren't too happy with that I remember.

With Toulouse being basically at Wigan's level, you'd imagine half a Saints team might still be able to win, but potential for a morale boosting 'victoire' for Toulouse.

As you say, you can always imagine

Re: Toulouse v Saints : Sun Mar 20, 2022 11:29 am  

Egg Chasing wrote:

Well you've lost every time you've played what people consider
to be a weak team. - it's probably most of your recent losses in the last 3 years.

Put that side out for 8 weeks and let's see where you are at the end of it.

Wigan are terrible with your starting team. You take several players out and see how you end up? I don't see your point. Is it that Saints wouldn't win the league if they had half their team missing every week? Of course not, but what difference does that make to anything? Liverpool wouldn't win the league if Salah, Jota and Diaz disappeared in a hypothetical situaton either.

Re: Toulouse v Saints : Sun Mar 20, 2022 1:38 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

Wigan are terrible with your starting team. You take several players out and see how you end up? I don't see your point. Is it that Saints wouldn't win the league if they had half their team missing every week? Of course not, but what difference does that make to anything? Liverpool wouldn't win the league if Salah, Jota and Diaz disappeared in a hypothetical situaton either.

The thing is he doesn’t really have a point and it’s more like clutching at straws. He mentioned how we would go after 8 weeks but we had a pretty bad injury spell for 8 years between 2007 to 2015 when we got to the business end of the season. That 2014 season finale we lost our scrum half and then someone almost manslaughtered our stand off, we ended up with 2 second row forwards as half backs to win the superleague trophy.

Re: Toulouse v Saints : Sun Mar 20, 2022 8:46 pm  

Play a team missing 5 or 6 from your first 17 - you lose. It's literally happened the last 4 times you've done it. We all called it on this thread yet you two claimed you would still win. You have claimed unbeaten seasons and the best squad the league has ever seen, and yet you play a weak team at the worst side in the league who are "wigan level" and you lose.

Wigan have been playing without our first choice players for years. Last year we played the whole season with Willie Isa in the centres and missing our first two choice fullbacks. 2019 we never once got our best 13 on the park and had a pack full of kids for the main part.

You have a superb 1-17 that is definitely the best in the league and can drop feed some quality kids in there whne you like because your injury record is decent, but your SQUAD simply isn't that good and if you endured the injury crisis the rest of the league has had in recent years then IMO you wouldn't have had the same dominant period you have had you would have fell short in semi finals etc like those years you mention judder.

All opinions of course, but after london twice, salford and now toulouse I'm pretty confident with mine.

Re: Toulouse v Saints : Mon Mar 21, 2022 12:08 am  

Egg Chasing wrote:

Play a team missing 5 or 6 from your first 17 - you lose. It's literally happened the last 4 times you've done it. We all called it on this thread yet you two claimed you would still win. You have claimed unbeaten seasons and the best squad the league has ever seen, and yet you play a weak team at the worst side in the league who are "wigan level" and you lose.

I started this whole thread as the Saints defeat had more than a sense of inevitability about it from the moment we announced a list of injuries after beating Warrington. I didn't claim we'd still win, I said 'you could argue we should still win' etc. I have never mentioned us going unbeaten or that we're the best side ever either. If we have a few injuries and get a couple of cards even Wigan might beat us, I don't see the issue with what I posted. Talking about injuries, you're Jai Field getting a knock away from being St Pats.

Re: Toulouse v Saints : Mon Mar 21, 2022 8:26 am  

Saddened! wrote:

I started this whole thread as the Saints defeat had more than a sense of inevitability about it from the moment we announced a list of injuries after beating Warrington. I didn't claim we'd still win, I said 'you could argue we should still win' etc. I have never mentioned us going unbeaten or that we're the best side ever either. If we have a few injuries and get a couple of cards even Wigan might beat us, I don't see the issue with what I posted. Talking about injuries, you're Jai Field getting a knock away from being St Pats.

I think he's talking nonsense both of us have said nothing about claiming a win.......he's just made it up.

I,m not 100% sure but I don't think we have claimed going undefeated either, Scully mentioned it in the media but he doesn't speak for the Saints Fans on here, Egg Chasing again is making things up.

Re: Toulouse v Saints : Mon Mar 21, 2022 9:21 am  

Apologies...you "argued" you could win rather than saying you would.