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Re: Australia and NZ withdraw from world cup : Fri Jul 23, 2021 9:01 pm  
I'd be interested to know what player's contracts say about them being released for an international game, these happen mid NRL season so it must have come up before. If a player has it in their contract they can play for their country then how could the club stop them?
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Re: Australia and NZ withdraw from world cup : Fri Jul 23, 2021 9:09 pm  
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They haven't actually explicitly said they can't play. They have only said Aus and NZ are pulling out. They don't have authority to speak for the Pacific nations but yes as I understand it the clubs now can refuse players permission to travel as the NRL have deemed it unsafe.


Then the club's need to come out now and address this and declare their position. I could see some legal action happening if non ANZAC players are told by any club they are not allowed to play.
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Re: Australia and NZ withdraw from world cup : Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:58 pm  
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I'd be interested to know what player's contracts say about them being released for an international game, these happen mid NRL season so it must have come up before. If a player has it in their contract they can play for their country then how could the club stop them?

INSURANCE........pretty simple really.
The NRL clubs cover their players' insurance, Rugby League Italy with a market value of 2 bob don't.....so Players can claim they want to......but who covers an ACL injury, or a career-ender?
The NRL clubs can and will stop their player taking part.

As for an invitational team like the tongan farce last time........no thanks. Hold the tournament, and if England win it then send them on a round the world exhibition tour as WORLD CHAMPIONS.......'Strayans would hate that. It'd make them more like the AFL......ie, a local sport than nobody else plays and that's why you think your're good....but you ain't 8)
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Re: Australia and NZ withdraw from world cup : Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:23 am  
Surely there is enough Aussies and Kiwis playing SL and the Championship who could represent Australia and NZ ?

They would probably still kick our Backsides !

I dont think SL have done the WC any favours really by cancelling games and 'giving' games because of covid. The game over here is a Joke at the moment and we are living here double jabbed just waiting to catch the bloody virus, because thats the governments strategy !!

I see both sides to the story, but if the Economy is now taking priority (and I think it is), then the WC needs to go ahead. Its just a shame that everyone cant p*** in the same pot !!!
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Re: Australia and NZ withdraw from world cup : Sat Jul 24, 2021 7:39 am  
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If you're late for pre-season training you'll be fined.....not to mention clauses in your contract barring you from Amy activity that may injure you causing your employer more expense.
Legal or not, the NRL clubs tell players where and when.....and I suspect very few will be flying north this autumn.


Again you’re completely wrong.

The only way NRL clubs can stop players representing their country is by underhand means. For example, putting pressure on them to declare themselves unfit - they would then have to prove it. This is why the players union are angry it’s put their members in the awkward position of possible conflict with their clubs.
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Re: Australia and NZ withdraw from world cup : Sat Jul 24, 2021 7:50 am  
The other pacific island nations meet this week to decide what they’re going to do. As they have all returned their participation forms they could be sanctioned if they don’t turn up. Some of those countries have said they intend to pick NRL based players and some have said they don’t. The World Cup hangs on that meeting IMO. If they say they decide en masse to not come there isn’t a great deal you can do about it. If they decide to come it puts well over 100 NRL players in the awful position of choosing between representing their country on the biggest stage when their chance of winning has just been given a massive boost or falling out with the club they play for.
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Re: Australia and NZ withdraw from world cup : Sat Jul 24, 2021 9:29 am  
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I'd be interested to know what player's contracts say about them being released for an international game, these happen mid NRL season so it must have come up before. If a player has it in their contract they can play for their country then how could the club stop them?


Clubs or the NRL have to allow players to play representive footy.

The difference here is the NRLs risk assessment says it not safe so doesn't count as legimitate rep footy.
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Re: Australia and NZ withdraw from world cup : Sat Jul 24, 2021 10:00 am  
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Clubs or the NRL have to allow players to play representive footy.

The difference here is the NRLs risk assessment says it not safe so doesn't count as legimitate rep footy.



Someone should tell the NRL CEO then because he’s been in the press saying it’s a players decision to play for a tier 2 nation in the World Cup.
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Re: Australia and NZ withdraw from world cup : Sat Jul 24, 2021 10:01 am  
Bit more on the shoddy way the cowardly Australians went about this. They advised the World Cup organisers by WhatsApp and they intend to play New Zealand in the autumn whilst the World Cup is going on.

The IRL have confirmed that would lead to legal action and sanctions against the ARlC and NZRL.
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Re: Australia and NZ withdraw from world cup : Sat Jul 24, 2021 10:15 am  
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https://www.nrl.com/news/2021/07/23/final-decision-on-world-cup-expected-next-week/

There are some good arguments in this.


Unfortunately the number of covid cases in the UK does give the NRL some kind of get out. You can't argue that the numbers don't look good.

The way cases are deliberatey conflated with infections is precisely meant to not look good. There is stastically hardly any coronavirus of any kind at this time of year, hence why respiratory deaths as underlying cause (when you don't falsify deaths) drop like a stone at this time of year. You only need look at the stats at ONS year on year, this is a classic Gompertz curve.

However the 'cases' keep rising due to the tests been used that are a weapon against humanity, hence the term 'casedemic' and now pingdemic.
The reaction using the 'cases' as the basis for it just plays the game of bowing to the projection of a pandemic/health problem when there is none, except that created by those saying there is a pandemic/health problem. The biggest issue right now is not just the toxic agent injected into people that causes influenza like symptoms - which are now 'covid' symptoms, in a significant number of those taking the jab (as per the manufacturers own data), it's the continued use of tests that cannot, and never could detect infection, hence you have casedemic, rising cases are in themselves utterly meaningless because of that, they indicate nothing except for the reality of deception and false health information by governments and so called health agencies.

So it's not surprising that the respective natinal rugby league bodies come out with a statement like that despite it been based on a pack of lies regards public health, they neither have the ability to grasp that cases aren't infections (even though this is obvious and the government never state that cases are infections, only the media), nor do they have the authority to challenge the narrative, even if they did they would be pilloried.

It also makes a bit of a mockery of having the jabs, surely if the reason for having them is to prevent 'covid' then you're protected right, otherwise what was the point exactly?
But whatever, RL is pretty much FUBAR with or without the WC going ahead, fans are losing intereest and income streams are dwindling faster than a nightclub owner post mandated jab for 'crowded' places.

If it still goes ahead and there are no crowds again, the tournament is going to lose a hell of a lot of money, there's no guarantee that next year is workable, fans will be wanting their money back. This is part of the regime/plan, to destroy society to coerce people getting jabs and 'booosters' and if businesses/community projects and wider public health falls by the wayside, so be it.

Cases will continue to be blamed on the unvaxxed (simply by changing the CT of PCR as is being done right as we speak, just read the CDC documents as to how you easily manipulate testing/cases for vaxxed v unvaxxed), and this is all part of the push to have everyone jagged up, rugby players included, even if that doesn't protect you, which is the paradox currently.

Play, don't play, I think a fair few ans right now actually don't care, the money I would have spent is going into what's left of grass roots rugby locally to me. If the pro game folds, so be it, but that will be on the tyrannical globalists, their lackeys and the people submitting to the insane regime. By complying, people have actually helped crush RL and everything else in our world. :CRAZY:
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