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Re: Fev Rovers looking promising : Thu Aug 29, 2013 4:03 pm  
Also they are not looking to compete with the Leeds/ Hulls etc on promotion. Like any sporting club the first challenge is to compete with the lower end before taking on the big boys.

Only in RL do we ask a team to compete at the top end of the game on promotion. In the PL, teams are just left to get on with it. No one expected Stoke FC to prove they could topple Man United from the number 1 spot to gain access. They simply had to stay up and build from there.
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King Street Cat wrote:
Some might look at this as being harsh but I think it's fair. When are the Rugby League going to stop persisting with this fantasy expansion. If it hasn't worked by now, it never will! I'm all for reaching out to a wider audience with our game but not at the expense of historical clubs in the homelands.

Re: Fev Rovers looking promising : Thu Aug 29, 2013 4:13 pm  
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Also they are not looking to compete with the Leeds/ Hulls etc on promotion. Like any sporting club the first challenge is to compete with the lower end before taking on the big boys.

Only in RL do we ask a team to compete at the top end of the game on promotion. In the PL, teams are just left to get on with it. No one expected Stoke FC to prove they could topple Man United from the number 1 spot to gain access. They simply had to stay up and build from there.
So you're happy to have a team in the league that is uncompetitive and getting flogged every other week?
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Re: Fev Rovers looking promising : Thu Aug 29, 2013 4:25 pm  
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Also they are not looking to compete with the Leeds/ Hulls etc on promotion. Like any sporting club the first challenge is to compete with the lower end before taking on the big boys.

Only in RL do we ask a team to compete at the top end of the game on promotion. In the PL, teams are just left to get on with it. No one expected Stoke FC to prove they could topple Man United from the number 1 spot to gain access. They simply had to stay up and build from there.

And football in this country has a worse record of clubs going into admin that we do. I have also not said that I ask for a club to challenge on promotion, I would ask that they are competitive, and also that they are in a position to be challenging at some point in the near future.

Let me ask you this. In all honesty, without putting in place rules deliberately designed to hamper the top clubs (and that includes the deliberately low SC we have now), can you see Fev growing to a level where they could feasibly compete in 5 years time? 10 years? Ever?

and if we allow clubs in SL that are never going to challenge, are always going to be second best, why do we have an SC to protect them and keep them competitive?
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Re: Fev Rovers looking promising : Thu Aug 29, 2013 4:36 pm  
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and if we allow clubs in SL that are never going to challenge, are always going to be second best, why do we have an SC to protect them and keep them competitive?



Second best to the NRL? Well, yeh-eh. Does the A-League constantly beat itself up because it can't compete with the English Premier League? Is the CFL in a permanent tizz that it isn't as good as the NFL?

We have to build a competition based on what we have, rather than what we wish we had.
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Re: Fev Rovers looking promising : Thu Aug 29, 2013 4:57 pm  
Sounds like this SmokeyTA is just jealous that Featherstone are on the up at the same time as Bradfords Bulls are on the slide.
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Re: Fev Rovers looking promising : Thu Aug 29, 2013 5:01 pm  
He's a Leeds fan.

Thankfully what he wants for the game is not the direction that it's heading in. Hallelujah!!
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Re: Fev Rovers looking promising : Thu Aug 29, 2013 5:10 pm  
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He's a Leeds fan.

Thankfully what he wants for the game is not the direction that it's heading in. Hallelujah!!

O I see. Thanks.

Well, the new structure is coming in whether he likes it or not.

Sounds like he'd be better off trying to persuade Hetherington to apply for Leeds to join the NRL instead of SL! :lol:
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Some might look at this as being harsh but I think it's fair. When are the Rugby League going to stop persisting with this fantasy expansion. If it hasn't worked by now, it never will! I'm all for reaching out to a wider audience with our game but not at the expense of historical clubs in the homelands.

Re: Fev Rovers looking promising : Thu Aug 29, 2013 5:12 pm  
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O I see. Thanks.

Well, the new structure is coming in whether he likes it or not.

Sounds like he'd be better off trying to persuade Hetherington to apply for Leeds to join the NRL instead of SL! :lol:
TBH, for their own good anyone involved with British RL should be looking to move to the NRL ASAP.
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Re: Fev Rovers looking promising : Thu Aug 29, 2013 5:29 pm  
Thankfully the game will still be here long after you clowns are dead.
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Re: Fev Rovers looking promising : Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:50 pm  
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How are you going to catch up by building slowly? Is everyone else expected to only build slowly aswell? Im not having a go at Fev, but simply this idea that clubs can just keep doing relatively small things and improving relatively small things and everything will be ok. It wont. Im not saying that we don’t need to improve these small things but for Fev to catch up to the big boys its going to take some bloody huge improvements and im not saying they can’t do these huge improvements, just that the system we put in place needs to A)give them the best chance of making these improvements and B) not promote to a level they can’t sustain if they can’t make these improvements.
Should be confirmed pretty soon I would think.

I agree. And the championship is a good competition that people enjoy. Helping to build and facilitate that competition as a breeding ground, in pretty much all ways should be the way we should go. The best youngsters should be playing in the championship and not in youth teams or not at all, marketing and building that competition would give a club like Fev the opportunity to get the infrastructure they needed in place if they are to ever be an SL side.

This new format will destroy the 2nd tier of the game.


Okay, slowly may have been the wrong word, but the progression at the club could be seen last night from where we were 5 years to today. A crowd of under 4,000 at this level of rugby is very good, especially when there was such little support.

I agree that the club needs to make huge improvements and knowing the chairmen, directors and staff like I do, they will be working there best to achieve this.

One major difference at the club is the positiveness and understanding what the end goal is.

Really enjoying the debate Smokey.
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