Re: Confirmed Rule Changes : Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:10 pm  

What the change to the marker rules means is that if the tackled player moves one step sideways off the mark, the markers still have chance to get in the game rather than being out of it until the dummy half makes a cheap ten metres.

Re: Confirmed Rule Changes : Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:28 pm  

Sound like reasonable changes to me

Re: Confirmed Rule Changes : Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:45 pm  

Anakin Skywalker wrote:

So if I read that right.
Team A knock on 3 meters from Team B's line and team B pick the ball up.
Team B then run up field and then knock on themselves in the act of scoring without a tackle being made and they still get a scrumdown 3 meters from their own line.
I can see that going well!!

it is pretty obvious in this situation that a common sense approach would need to be applied


therefore we are stuffed

Re: Confirmed Rule Changes : Sat Jan 26, 2013 8:45 am  

What happens if Team A knock on, Team B pick the ball up and their player is subsequently abducted by aliens?

It's about as likely to happen as the other scenario being used to decry the change...

Re: Confirmed Rule Changes : Sat Jan 26, 2013 9:23 am  

Jemmo wrote:

The referee no longer needs to inform the captain verbally that his team has been placed on a caution. The referee will inform the team and spectators that a team has been placed on caution for a period of time by pointing at that team and circling his other arm in front of him, the referee will then be joined by both touch judges and the coach of the opposing side to form a conga to the nearest touchline

Re: Confirmed Rule Changes : Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:38 pm  

Anakin Skywalker wrote:

So if I read that right.
Team A knock on 3 meters from Team B's line and team B pick the ball up.
Team B then run up field and then knock on themselves in the act of scoring without a tackle being made and they still get a scrumdown 3 meters from their own line.
I can see that going well!!

It is a joke, once you go past the advantage line that should be advantage over. It will basically give the attacking team a free play where they can try anything to score safe in the knowledge that they will get the ball back.

The sooner the RLIF makes rule changes, and the game across the world is standardised, the better. It is a complete joke that the English game and the NRL change the rules to suit themselves.

Re: Confirmed Rule Changes : Sat Jan 26, 2013 2:10 pm  

Andy Gilder wrote:

What happens if Team A knock on, Team B pick the ball up and their player is subsequently abducted by aliens?

It's about as likely to happen as the other scenario being used to decry the change...

Who is decrying it?
I was taking it to a possible outcome with the obvious outroar that would follow from some.
Also a team knocking on and the opposition picking up and going full length is hardly unheard of and a player knocking on in the act of scoring is hardly unheard of either.

Re: Confirmed Rule Changes : Sat Jan 26, 2013 10:22 pm  

Watched Wakefield v Featherstone friendly and the advantage rule led to flinging the ball along the line with a hit and hope kick downfield. Then after the players had run the length of the pitch they had to return to form the scrum. To be honest it made the game look amateur.

Just my opinion, but i did quite like the other rules implemented in trial games which seem to have been overlooked.

Re: Confirmed Rule Changes : Sun Jan 27, 2013 11:57 pm  

I saw the new advantage rule in play today.

Scorpions knock on about 10 metres out. Wigan kids gather and rather than run just hoof a big angled kick to the winger.

Scorpions managed to get back and regather but the ref calls it back and it's a Wigan head and feed at the scrum where the original knock on took place. I think many a dozing winger/full back will be caught out by this as if the attacking winger (Wigan in this case) wins the race to the ball then it is a try most of the time but it is risk free as if the defence gathers they get possession back in the form of put in at the scrum anyway.

I'm not in a place to say whether it is a change for the better but it got people thinking that's for sure.

Re: Confirmed Rule Changes : Mon Jan 28, 2013 12:08 am  

Having thought about it further I think it will see many sides simply view the advantage rule as a chance to punt through trying to expose space behind the team that have just knocked on no matter where they are on the field.

It is a free play as opposed to advantage though and I think it figures that some measure of what advantage is should be introduced. Once the player crosses the gain line being the most common sense approach.

Another idea would be to stop messing about with a game that wasn't broken from the off.