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Have a mooch through some of the squads, pick a Welsh 17 of anyone available if it was an ideal world.

1 Elliott Kear
2 Dave Halley
3 Rhys Evans
4 Gareth Thomas
5 Rhys Williams
6 Lloyd White
7 Lee Briers
8 Ben Davies
9 Sean Penkywicz
10 Kieth Mason
11 Jacob Emmitt
12 Gareth Carvell
13 Ben Flower

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R Jordan James
R Andy Bracek
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Carvell has just played for England and is never a 2nd rower, inconceivable.
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[quote="mark_m"]Carvell has just played for England [quote]

Hence the term 'ideal world'.
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Bonzo wrote:
Corrected.

Incidentally, an exclamation mark ends a sentence and does not require a full stop. The first letter of the next word begins a new sentence and should therefore be capitalised. Who needs flankers' grammar was actually correct.

HTH.

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mark_m wrote:
Carvell has just played for England and is never a 2nd rower, inconceivable.


Agreed. Better off with Mason in 2nd row than GC.

Decent front row though! They need to be playing the likes of France and PNG on a regular basis though for it to all come together.
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I put it together when I had a spare half an hour at work, so maybe the packs a bit jumbled. Fairly decent side though, better than I thouogt anyway.
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Matt James has been superb for Barrow recently, think hes played for wales before.
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I saw him have a blinder against Fev when Barrow were on telly, big lump with good hands from what I could see.
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The Crusaders team are all Antipodean so that rules all of them out :wink:
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Dave Halley is now English!
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jonny the leyther wrote:
Have a mooch through some of the squads, pick a Welsh 17 of anyone available if it was an ideal world.

1 Elliott Kear
2 Dave Halley
3 Rhys Evans
4 Gareth Thomas
5 Rhys Williams
6 Lloyd White
7 Lee Briers
8 Ben Davies
9 Sean Penkywicz
10 Kieth Mason
11 Jacob Emmitt
12 Gareth Carvell
13 Ben Flower

R Craig Kopczak
R David Mills
R Jordan James
R Andy Bracek


I'd look at players who put their hands up with Welsh heritage that want to play for the shirt and the Welsh shirt only. That rules out Carvell and Halley and I'm glad to see the back of those turncoats to be honest. Can anybody tell me how many England caps Halley has racked up so far?

There has to be places for Gil Dudson as he is a born and bred Welshman with Super League experience.

I do not think ignoring people who put their hands up for Wales is going to help us in our maiden 4 nations. Getting drubbed by huge points margins is not going to help the game in Wales and put bluntly the squad is not good enough. The players are hardly household names in Wales so I would put in some Aussies if that makes us more competitive and introduce more people as the quality improves. The best countries in the world bend the rules to suit in both codes and in this case Wales need to show promise in this tournament as three successive hammerings will not be beneficial to the Welsh lads that are in the squad.

I fully expect Harris to stubbornly soldier on with a low quality squad however and blame officials and hard luck for our short comings as that is what he has done at Crusaders to date. I'm looking forward to it but you pick the best team available.
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