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Re: Scurr attracting interest Mon May 17, 2021 12:18 pm  

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Was he a Bulls supporter as a lad does anyone know?


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Re: Scurr attracting interest Tue May 18, 2021 9:31 am  

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If he’s offered a full time contract and more money then how on earth do people expect us to compete with that?

If you were 21 and could pick between slogging a day job and then training on an evening, or being paid as a full time professional with more money and free time....... how many would pick the first option?

Best case scenario we get him back on loan. We need to accept that we’re a championship club with no realistic prospect of promotion for the next few years.
Re: Scurr attracting interest Tue May 18, 2021 10:46 am  

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I thought we were hybrid, thereby with full time and p/t players. We'd have to compete with clubs offering him a salary for squad number 25/6. I don't know what that is. And sell the ambition of the club to get promotion. As he's the only player we have in this situation right now I wouldn't think it'd be a huge increase across the board.
Re: Scurr attracting interest Tue May 18, 2021 10:59 am  

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I thought we were hybrid, thereby with full time and p/t players. We'd have to compete with clubs offering him a salary for squad number 25/6. I don't know what that is. And sell the ambition of the club to get promotion. As he's the only player we have in this situation right now I wouldn't think it'd be a huge increase across the board.


But being FT with us is different to being FT with Leeds. Leeds he'd train in the day, with his team mates and have the rest of the day off.

With us, I don't know how it would work but he would presumably do fitness work and work with the foundation during the day, then training at night. Id imagine it's much less free time.

I'm sure the club are trying everything they can to keep him. He may well decide to stay as he's playing reguarly, playing well and came through our system. But we're behind the 8 ball here and it's not just a case of the club working hard enough to keep him.
Re: Scurr attracting interest Tue May 18, 2021 11:00 am  

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M@islebugs wrote:
I thought we were hybrid, thereby with full time and p/t players. We'd have to compete with clubs offering him a salary for squad number 25/6. I don't know what that is. And sell the ambition of the club to get promotion. As he's the only player we have in this situation right now I wouldn't think it'd be a huge increase across the board.

I know we were hybrid previously but I thought we were PT now (might just have been an assumption on my part)
Re: Scurr attracting interest Tue May 18, 2021 11:12 am  

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I know we were hybrid previously but I thought we were PT now (might just have been an assumption on my part)


You might be right and I'm making the odd assumption or two.
NW says Odsal is uneconomic without SL, but as we've nowhere else to play .....
The championship is tough but not that tough. We're behind 3 or 4 clubs but not that far behind.
The upgrade on Scurr's wage would be a relatively cheap way to signal intent, compared to signing players.
If Scurr goes, it's a statement of what many of us on here fear. We're between a rock and a hard place, the cost of Odsal and the slow decline of Dewsbury. I don;'t see how you sell this.
Re: Scurr attracting interest Tue May 18, 2021 2:28 pm  

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At the end of the day players, young players, want a career path. I'm sure Ebon is imagining himself in an England shirt at some point in the future, and he's justified to do so imo. The unfortunate (for us) thing is that we are just a part of that pathway and certainly not at the end of it. Players like Ebon, and all the others who have left over recent seasons, will always gravitate to the 'larger' clubs, basically the ones in the top division. If you want to be the best why would you stick with a Championship club? It would make no sense when proving yourself at the top level is the only way you're going to get that England shirt.

It is fair comment to wonder just when is the best time to make that move though. Is it now? Mmm
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Re: Scurr attracting interest Tue May 18, 2021 3:03 pm  
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I have a feeling Ebon will go for 1 more year after this with us and then move on. At the rate he is improving he would be in a position to get better terms in SL than now. He is still only very young. At least that's what I hope.
Re: Scurr attracting interest Tue May 18, 2021 3:27 pm  

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If I were him I'd want to move but I'd want to maximise my chances of making it a success bey getting the best deal possible at the best club where there is a genuine opportunity. Make the wrong move and you could be twiddling your thumbs, not getting a game using up all the extra money travelling to training.

If he does stay I can't see it being more than a year.

Much as I'd love to see us keep our better prospects until we show we're ready to go partly or 100% fulltime we're not going to do that.
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Re: Scurr attracting interest Wed May 19, 2021 1:33 pm  

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I know we were hybrid previously but I thought we were PT now (might just have been an assumption on my part)

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