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Re: new chairman Thu Apr 15, 2021 10:45 am  

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Another thing which merits comment is the reference to having paid down debts (incurred by Chalmers). Much was made of the generosity of Bulls fans foregoing repayment of season tickets for last season and this would be reflected in the 2021 squad. To be blunt - it isn't.

Can we now put season ticket-gate alongside Pledge-gate as example whereby Bulls fans bail out the failings of penniless idiots either installed by, or loaned huge sums of money by the RFL under the direction of ..... you guessed it?


Good point. Although some will point to Danny Brough and Justin Murphy and the need to be “sustainable”. I think the problem is that the current setup is incapable of being honest and saying that we’re not competing with the wealthier championship clubs for fear of losing supporters.

In the end it needs big investment and a big effort off the field to properly aspire to be a top championship side or even make a proper effort to get into SL. We’re not really doing either to the extent that Fev, York, Toulouse or even Newcastle are so it looks like we are where we are for now. Mid table at best.
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Re: new chairman Thu Apr 15, 2021 10:57 am  

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Yeah I agree about the time it takes to build a competitive squad and also whether it will make much difference if he does. When Paul Anderson made Hudders successful it didn’t exactly lead to crowds in their droves. Broadly agree on Wakefield who haven’t been big since Neil Fox was a lad and Frank Machin was tearing it up on screen . HKR aren’t the club they were back in the 70s/80s. Cas will return to being also rans and Salford look like yo-yo club contenders again. Disagree on Catalans though. Despite the large numbers of non French players I like setup over there. It’s a great atmosphere at games and is a great away trip. It gives French players an “elite” club to aspire to.

The way British RL is at the moment reminds me of the malaise the game was in during the 70s. Dwindling crowds, lack of money, falling behind the Australian game in every way. We need a Howes and Oxley type double act to turn things around.


Agreed. The sport just doesn't seem to realise it has to work hard to entice people to come nowadays.

Probably emphasised by Sheffield refusing to move the Fax game by one day so crowds can can attend that fixturell for the first time in a year. I know players are part time but if clubs can't be bothered trying to make allowances, with over a month's notice, in extraordinary circumstances like we currently have then the sports no chance.
Re: new chairman Thu Apr 15, 2021 11:08 am  

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Agreed. The sport just doesn't seem to realise it has to work hard to entice people to come nowadays.

Probably emphasised by Sheffield refusing to move the Fax game by one day so crowds can can attend that fixturell for the first time in a year. I know players are part time but if clubs can't be bothered trying to make allowances, with over a month's notice, in extraordinary circumstances like we currently have then the sports no chance.


:shock: Didn't know that about Sheffield. Unbelievable.
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Re: new chairman Thu Apr 15, 2021 11:09 am  

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Unfortunately somethings gone badly wrong fitness and attitude wise between us thumping Sheffield 28-0 +pushing Wakey all the way last year , and being humiliated by Sheffield last week.


This is true. I've no contacts "on the inside" now so have no idea what the reason is but attitude comes from within and from having leaders around that set high standards. Maybe those people aren't doing that anymore?

As far as fitness is concerned this is also down to attitude and having the right people in charge setting the right programmes. I've already said what I think of the state of some of our first team players this year. I know that some of the younger players were having burger and chips after training on occasions in 2019/20 - I'm no dietician but I don't think that's what should be happening
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Re: new chairman Thu Apr 15, 2021 11:31 am  

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Good point. Although some will point to Danny Brough and Justin Murphy and the need to be “sustainable”..


The Catalan winger? :wink:
Re: new chairman Thu Apr 15, 2021 12:26 pm  

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Agreed. The sport just doesn't seem to realise it has to work hard to entice people to come nowadays.

Probably emphasised by Sheffield refusing to move the Fax game by one day so crowds can can attend that fixturell for the first time in a year. I know players are part time but if clubs can't be bothered trying to make allowances, with over a month's notice, in extraordinary circumstances like we currently have then the sports no chance.

Totally agree with this. What planet are Sheffield on? :CRAZY:
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Re: new chairman Thu Apr 15, 2021 12:51 pm  

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The Catalan winger? :wink:



:DOH: I ALWAYS get those two mixed up. Must be my age.
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Re: new chairman Thu Apr 15, 2021 3:27 pm  

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M@islebugs wrote:
Johnson, Farrell, Milnes, Barlow and now England. It's a marginal improvement but nothing more.


Evans brothers,Brough and Murphy are all better than ones replaced, will be om highers salarys too. only losses are England and Farrell.
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