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Re: Round 1: Sheffield Sun Apr 04, 2021 10:32 pm  

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No need to panic.

Dont forget only a few weeks ago, the majority on here were saying we had a good squad.

Others dared to question that opinion but were shot down in flames.
Re: Round 1: Sheffield Sun Apr 04, 2021 11:03 pm  

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RagingBull wrote:
No need to panic.

Dont forget only a few weeks ago, the majority on here were saying we had a good squad.

Others dared to question that opinion but were shot down in flames.


You keep saying this, but I don't think anyone has actually said we've an amazing squad.

Most have been sensible. I think it's an a squad thats CAPABLE of getting into the top 6. Especially when London got hammered and Widnes drew with Newcastle. There is an opportunity there for us on paper.

You can have a squad of amazing players, it's irrelevant if they aren't fit, have zero muscle + strength and most importantly, turn up with the attitude we did today.
Re: Round 1: Sheffield Sun Apr 04, 2021 11:41 pm  

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RagingBull wrote:
Dont forget only a few weeks ago, the majority on here were saying we had a good squad.


I don't think that's true. It was a small minority that thought we would be credible playoff material. And now that shall minority may well have dropped to zero.
Re: Round 1: Sheffield Mon Apr 05, 2021 1:08 am  
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He was looking for a rest at marker after 5mins versus Fev despite apparently being in training with us for a year. You're deluding yourself.


Guess you’ll be happy to just stick with the side that just got pumped by a not so great Sheffield then? That’s okay, everyone has an opinion. Those boys out there were looking for a rest behind the sticks every 5 mins. I personally would like to see Walker in the side even if he only plays 10 mins a half.

And the rest of the lads have been training for a year too. What’s their excuse for being knackered and not looking sharp/fit/lethargic?
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Re: Round 1: Sheffield Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:35 am  

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Something similar against Fax and Kear has to go.
Pre-season conditioning has been a disaster. I've never seen anything as bad. Kear's interviews now look embarrassing. Young players have gone backwards to an alarming degree.
If the attitude has turned sour, then the only difference to last year that we know of, is Brough. I just can't see blokes like Crossley sulking for nothing.
Something has gone dramatically wrong.
The pre-season recruitment of SL loan signings hasn't happened, even though they were 'lined up.'
The chairman's interview is one of sustainable managed decline.
Re: Round 1: Sheffield Mon Apr 05, 2021 8:34 am  
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M@islebugs wrote:
If the attitude has turned sour, then the only difference to last year that we know of, is Brough. I just can't see blokes like Crossley sulking for nothing.
Something has gone dramatically wrong.


Nail on head!!!

Brough is a fine player but is a rotten egg and has proven it wherever he has played.

I have a contact that was part of the England set up when Brough was being tagged as the best half in the league. England wouldnt take him as they felt he would bring a negative attitude and effect the entire squad
Don't think i'm biased...
...i'm just very narrow minded!!!!!!!
Re: Round 1: Sheffield Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:44 am  

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M@islebugs wrote:
Something similar against Fax and Kear has to go.
Pre-season conditioning has been a disaster. I've never seen anything as bad. Kear's interviews now look embarrassing. Young players have gone backwards to an alarming degree.
If the attitude has turned sour, then the only difference to last year that we know of, is Brough. I just can't see blokes like Crossley sulking for nothing.
Something has gone dramatically wrong.
The pre-season recruitment of SL loan signings hasn't happened, even though they were 'lined up.'
The chairman's interview is one of sustainable managed decline.

That is a bit of leap! Is Brough our only new signing or just a convenient scapegoat? I mean if you have some credible information that all isn’t well in camp in terms of morale then fair enough? I’m not sure that blaming Danny Brough quite covers the shortfalls out on the pitch though.

I mean I can imagine Brough not being backwards in coming forwards with his opinion, but looking at the performance and condition of some of the players there has to be a collective responsibility.

The Fax game will be very telling, if we get another half arsed performance then the alarm bells will be well and truly sounding,
Re: Round 1: Sheffield Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:25 am  
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Can’t blame Brough. Bloody hell. He looked like he was one of the only ones trying. Blame the individual errors, the missed one on ones. Unfortunately you can’t blame Brough (or Kear) for that.
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Re: Round 1: Sheffield Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:38 am  

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Bully_Boxer wrote:
That is a bit of leap! Is Brough our only new signing or just a convenient scapegoat? I mean if you have some credible information that all isn’t well in camp in terms of morale then fair enough? I’m not sure that blaming Danny Brough quite covers the shortfalls out on the pitch though.

I mean I can imagine Brough not being backwards in coming forwards with his opinion, but looking at the performance and condition of some of the players there has to be a collective responsibility.

The Fax game will be very telling, if we get another half arsed performance then the alarm bells will be well and truly sounding,



YES, I have 100% credible information that all is not well in the camp. It's Sheffield 50 - Bulls 12.

I'm not blaming Brough at all, but there's something seriously wrong. The conditioning was shocking against Fev but that does not explain why we got worse with 2 weeks training.
Re: Round 1: Sheffield Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:40 am  

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Bulls Boy 2011 wrote:
Can’t blame Brough. Bloody hell. He looked like he was one of the only ones trying. Blame the individual errors, the missed one on ones. Unfortunately you can’t blame Brough (or Kear) for that.


I do blame Kear. We're not a hippy commune, we're a club with a coach whose task is prepare the players for the season ahead. And in that he's failed.
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