Is the forty-twenty slowly dying? : Sun Feb 15, 2009 11:34 pm  

http://superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?season=2008&stat=forty_twenty&hs1=2009&hp1=153&hs2=2009&hp2=923 Look through the SL era, there seem to be less and less 40-20's every year. Maybe in the modern game it is too fast flowing for a 40-20?

http://superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?season=2008&stat=forty_twenty&hs1=2009&hp1=153&hs2=2009&hp2=923 Look through the SL era, there seem to be less and less 40-20's every year. Maybe in the modern game it is too fast flowing for a 40-20?

: Mon Feb 16, 2009 8:41 am  

Maybe there's just a lack of kicking skill?

: Mon Feb 16, 2009 8:50 am  

Or Kickers have less time to go for a 40/20,

: Mon Feb 16, 2009 8:59 am  

This is Superleague.

There's no room for skill.

[Bullseye]

: Mon Feb 16, 2009 9:16 am  

Quite, it's all about dummy half scoots. That's what the fans want to see. <copyright Stuart Cummings 2008/9>

: Mon Feb 16, 2009 9:53 am  

Bullseye wrote:

Quite, it's all about dummy half scoots. That's what the fans want to see. <copyright Stuart Cummings 2008/9>

Especially if the hooker can run behind a retreating offside player (or an even higher level of skill - actually place a hand in the middle of his back) while the commentators crow about how fast his rugby brain is working!

: Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:02 am  

Highlander wrote:

Especially if the hooker can run behind a retreating offside player (or an even higher level of skill - actually place a hand in the middle of his back) while the commentators crow about how fast his rugby brain is working!

This is a negative tactic IMO. Watching Cunningham against Warrington on Friday constantly expecting to win penalties from these kind of scoots - too many British clubs (especially Saints last year) are reliant on these tactics.

At least the referees have given up on making sure players play the ball 'properly' - to me this is an admission of guilt after the rule was interpreted differently in the World Cup. Good to see them not go back to the 2008 interpretation though.

: Mon Feb 16, 2009 1:58 pm  

Tim Smith got one last week and I think Thorman got on on Friday. It's not really a tactic coaches use imo. They would rather play it safe.

Re: Is the forty-twenty slowly dying? : Mon Feb 16, 2009 2:36 pm  

Ewwenorfolk wrote: http://superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?season=2008&stat=forty_twenty&hs1=2009&hp1=153&hs2=2009&hp2=923 Look through the SL era, there seem to be less and less 40-20's every year. Maybe in the modern game it is too fast flowing for a 40-20? I think wingers and full backs have got better at defending them tbh

Ewwenorfolk wrote: http://superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?season=2008&stat=forty_twenty&hs1=2009&hp1=153&hs2=2009&hp2=923 Look through the SL era, there seem to be less and less 40-20's every year. Maybe in the modern game it is too fast flowing for a 40-20? I think wingers and full backs have got better at defending them tbh

[Bullseye]

: Mon Feb 16, 2009 3:50 pm  

Trimalchio wrote:

This is a negative tactic IMO. Watching Cunningham against Warrington on Friday constantly expecting to win penalties from these kind of scoots - too many British clubs (especially Saints last year) are reliant on these tactics.

Does anyone see this as a positive tactic at all? Winning the ruck has become the be all and end all. In the NRL they've gone the way of wrestling holds whereas over here it's all about the speed and winning a penalty.

In the latest rugby league world Maurice Lindsay of all people talked about how a rule change to outlaw dummy half running might be a way forward.

It's an idea, at the moment we aren't developing skilful backs and halfbacks partly because of an over emphasis at the ruck.