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Fri Jan 16, 2009 2:41 pm  
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Innocent until proven guilty and all that.


I agree but you would have thought Cronulla would have stood by him until the trial was over
Fri Jan 16, 2009 2:54 pm  

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Can I just say by the way, nothing has been proved as to what he is alleged to have done. People are saying all this about his character and should we sign someone like that, but he still insists he is innocent.

Innocent until proven guilty and all that. I would say let's not question this based on his character unless he is actually found guilty. I understand the other reasons for questioning the signing (whether I agree with them or not) but I don't think it's fair to use this as a reason yet
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I think the stitches in his girlfriends face make me less inclined to give him benfit of the doubt.


From a playing point of view he is a good player who certainly will improve your team and is a good signing.


I am glad however we did not sign him because i have no time for people like him.

I would expect that you are unlikely to see him for a good few weeks as even in straightforward cases it take as while to get a visa. By then he will be due to go back to OZ.

I cannot help feeling that it is a bit of a PR stunt because after the Carney debacle and the problems Hull are having with Crocker this has to be one of the riskiest signings this season. there has to be some planning around the fact he will not ever even get here.
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Fri Jan 16, 2009 2:57 pm  

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DILLIGAF wrote:
Can I just say by the way, nothing has been proved as to what he is alleged to have done. People are saying all this about his character and should we sign someone like that, but he still insists he is innocent.

Innocent until proven guilty and all that. I would say let's not question this based on his character unless he is actually found guilty. I understand the other reasons for questioning the signing (whether I agree with them or not) but I don't think it's fair to use this as a reason yet.


Also on the T&A it states his girlfriend is actually standing by him and he maintains he is innocent.. think theres a lot to this story that is a bit weird when your gf is standing by you.
Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:01 pm  

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DILLIGAF wrote:
Can I just say by the way, nothing has been proved as to what he is alleged to have done. People are saying all this about his character and should we sign someone like that, but he still insists he is innocent.

Innocent until proven guilty and all that. I would say let's not question this based on his character unless he is actually found guilty. I understand the other reasons for questioning the signing (whether I agree with them or not) but I don't think it's fair to use this as a reason yet.


His wife has not pressed any charges so he is free to play & sign for us.

What a great player from what I saw of him on Setanta last year
Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:02 pm  

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Also on the T&A it states his girlfriend is actually standing by him and he maintains he is innocent.. think theres a lot to this story that is a bit weird when your gf is standing by you.



Very common in situations of Domestic Violence unfortunately.
Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:08 pm  

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Very common in situations of Domestic Violence unfortunately.


But who knows if it is a domestic violence case? Papers say a lot of things, some of true, some of it utter rubbish. Until he is found guilty then nobody can say that and she has publically stated that she is not happy with how the case has been handled so i think that innocent until proven guilty should be observed. If he is guilty then i think signing him could be dodgy but if he is actually innocent then his character has been tainted for no reason.
Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:12 pm  

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Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:22 pm  

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Bird + Deacon with Jeffries as cover certainly sounds promising.


Bird & Jeffries sounds a whole lot better.
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Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:23 pm  

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Bird & Jeffries sounds a whole lot better.
It does to me too.
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Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:26 pm  

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Wellla bird bird bird. Bird is the word. Awella bird bird bbbird's the word. Don't you know about the bird? Well everybody knows that the bird is the word. Awella bird bird bird is the word. Well everybody's talk about the bird.

sorry. got a bit excited there.
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