: Fri Mar 20, 2009 6:30 pm  

Asim wrote:

Well it's tough sh*t isn't it?

I'd love a much bigger and better place to live, but I aint whining that no-one else will sort it out for me, the reason the club is at the mercy of the council is because they, historically, never thought being in charge of their own destiny was worth it.

Calm yourself, you'll do a mischief!

The club is NOT at the mercy of the Council. However IF the club is to stay at Odsal or perhaps even in Bradford, then it cannot happen unless either the OSV or some other such scheme come to pass, because nobody has had the financial muscle, nor ever will have (Russian oligarchs absent) to pay to plant a decent stadium in the Odsal bowl. You know this.

If your house was falling down, or was seriously overcrowded, or other valid reason, the Council would if you qualified sort it out for you, so stop talking dross. They would sort it out for you even though (I am admittedly presuming) thousands of the local population don't come and watch you perform, and none of them give a shi# where you live. If you are a major porn star I apologise for the last comment.

: Fri Mar 20, 2009 6:36 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

If your house was falling down, or was seriously overcrowded, or other valid reason, the Council would if you qualified sort it out for you, so stop talking dross. They would sort it out for you even though (I am admittedly presuming) thousands of the local population don't come and watch you perform, and none of them give a shi# where you live. If you are a major porn star I apologise for the last comment.

Not if they'd previously handed me over a large cheque to give me responsibility for sorting such problems out.

I've stated over and over again that I don't think pro sports clubs should be benefitting from public money so I'm not going to get into it again.

: Fri Mar 20, 2009 6:42 pm  

Asim wrote:

Not if they'd previously handed me over a large cheque to give me responsibility for sorting such problems out.

I've stated over and over again that I don't think pro sports clubs should be benefitting from public money so I'm not going to get into it again.

You know what the large cheque was for, and it certainly was not to build a new stadium - in comparison to the cost of which it would have been better described as a miniscule cheque.

But as I understand it, OSV is certainly not the Bulls "benefitting from public money", it is a joint venture between several parties and needs the Bulls' ground to make it feasible. The Bulls would, of course, benefit from the arrangement - but not for nothing, and so would everyone else in the district, as well as the immediate partners.

There is no rule that a pro sports club is forever compelled to operate as a solo entity.

: Sat Mar 21, 2009 9:13 pm  

Asim wrote:

Well it's tough sh*t isn't it?

I'd love a much bigger and better place to live, but I aint whining that no-one else will sort it out for me, the reason the club is at the mercy of the council is because they, historically, never thought being in charge of their own destiny was worth it.

Sorry Asim not wanting to have a go at you personaly here but when you see things like this written by Football fans it really does not inspire any confidence in doing what City want us to do and move to VP to ease their rent issues.

We would be back to being second class rent paying tenants somewhere where we are tolerated rather than wanted, you only have to read some of the BCFC forums to see that.

: Sat Mar 21, 2009 10:03 pm  

Gill J wrote:

. . . .

We would be back to being second class rent paying tenants somewhere where we are tolerated rather than wanted, you only have to read some of the BCFC forums to see that.

. . . . . .

TRY for . . . . anything, but that.

: Sat Mar 21, 2009 10:38 pm  

Gill J wrote:

Sorry Asim not wanting to have a go at you personaly here but when you see things like this written by Football fans it really does not inspire any confidence in doing what City want us to do and move to VP to ease their rent issues.

We would be back to being second class rent paying tenants somewhere where we are tolerated rather than wanted, you only have to read some of the BCFC forums to see that.

Don't worry, we don't want you.

: Sat Mar 21, 2009 10:39 pm  

Asim wrote:

Don't worry, we don't want you.

Who's we? Many on the City boards seem quite keen on having (making even) the Bulls move in.

: Sat Mar 21, 2009 10:40 pm  

af wrote:

Who's we? Many on the City boards seem quite keen on having (making even) the Bulls move in.

Me and my army.

: Sat Mar 21, 2009 11:32 pm  

I can't see any of this happening, due to the fact of the bantams.
6,000 fans have already signed a petition to say that if they move out of valley parade they will not go watch city any more.
Also, to buy Valley Parade it cost's 2.5 mill however to buy the sporting village it cost's 15 mill, i see it has only the bulls in favour of this going ahead.

: Sat Mar 21, 2009 11:47 pm  

joeflan wrote:

I can't see any of this happening, due to the fact of the bantams.
6,000 fans have already signed a petition to say that if they move out of valley parade they will not go watch city any more.
Also, to buy Valley Parade it cost's 2.5 mill however to buy the sporting village it cost's 15 mill, i see it has only the bulls in favour of this going ahead.

Really? First I've heard of this, I think you might be getting it confused with the number of season tickets sold for next season.

I'm sure the majority of City fans would accept the Bulls at VP if they really had to (ie to guarantee the future of the club), though you don't readily invite someone back to your house when they decided to sh*t on the carpet on their last visit.