Re: Chris Caisley sometime in the mid 90s : Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:11 pm  

Dreamer wrote:

I have every respect for the outstanding effort of the Bradford fans in trying to save the club they love.

I have little respect for the Bradford Management, past and present.

I have little respect for the price Worth Valley Railway tries to charge me for a day out with the family

Re: Chris Caisley sometime in the mid 90s : Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:16 pm  

Bullseye wrote:

You're one of us I know it.

Now, now, that's getting carried away a tad. But I don't see the point in continuing to be hostile to your fans.

However it is worth remembering that quite a few Keighley fans worked in Bradford at the time, and from talking to them, SOME Bradford fans made life rather unpleasant.

[Bullseye]

Re: Chris Caisley sometime in the mid 90s : Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:20 pm  

Dreamer wrote:

Now, now, that's getting carried away a tad. But I don't see the point in continuing to be hostile to your fans.

Dreamer wrote:

However it is worth remembering that quite a few Keighley fans worked in Bradford at the time and from talking to them SOME Bradford fans made life rather unpleasant.

Well I suppose every club has it's kn0bheads masquerading as fans. It's up to upstanding people like us to rise above it. Like it or not we are a community and need to work together.

That said if we're playing Keighley in a local derby in NL1 next year then I take it all back

Re: Chris Caisley sometime in the mid 90s : Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:23 pm  

Gurus_Beard wrote:

I have little respect for the price Worth Valley Railway tries to charge me for a day out with the family

Ah, but that's actually Haworth, and according to your own publicity that's in Bradford, so you've only got yourselves to blame.

Re: Chris Caisley sometime in the mid 90s : Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:48 pm  

aj cougar wrote:

Neither is Bradford it would seem?

Neither was Northern Rock, but that is not the point. If we want RL to match yawnion/cricket/tennis for the nation's second sport it needs the promotion in the media that they attract. It isn't going to get it unless major towns & cities, with big support, are involved. I don't like the way of the modern world that values style over substance but it's a sad fact. As the crow flies Keighley are my nearest team, I try & get there 2 or 3 times a year, I would love to go to SL matches at Cougar Park, but without a sugar daddy there isn't a hope in hell they could last more than a year. I come from & played for a town where RL is a perennial struggler for support & media. I was there when, not for the first or last time, they went through what Bradford are now. But we were small & crap so no-one noticed. That was all pre-SL, when the game as a spectacle was not a patch on what it is now.

Re: Chris Caisley sometime in the mid 90s : Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:08 pm  

kinleycat wrote:

Really????
If you think that Newlove was worth more than Offiah, you should be somewhere, where the use of sharp objects is prohibited, that is crackers!!!!
Also handing over £200k for a player is hardly stealing is it?
If that is what your grudge is over, i'd give it a break to be honest!!

He was worth more than Offiah because the Saints paid more a few years later.

If you think 200k was a fair price for Newlove at the time then you should be somewhere, where sharp objects is prohibited.

Re: Chris Caisley sometime in the mid 90s : Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:11 pm  

isaac1 wrote:

This debate does raise some serious questions about our game. It was founded out of a unified decision based on justice and fairness. 117 years later and those values have evaporated.

The fanbase of our sport was struggling to finance part time players in most top division clubs in 1995, and Superleague was supposed to bring financial security and a new level of professionalism and growth of the sport.

The international game is now weaker than it was pre SL and the sky cash goes directly into the hands of the now full time players. we are told year on year that crowds are up, but how many of these people pay a full price, or any price?

The move to summer has been beneficial in some respects, but how much more revenue would a proper kangaroo tour enable clubs to earn? is it worth it?

what happens if the sky money stops? our sport would change beyond recognition. With the advent of professional rugby union, how would we survive with all the best young players playing union?

the heart of our game was always the community. am I the only person that prefers going to Wheldon Rd rather than the galpharm, or prefered Knowlsey rd to langtree park?

The sport needs to stop dreaming of a european wide league, and focus on preserving the roots of our professional (or semi pro) game.

If you havent seen them, try and get copies of the two "when push comes to shove" books. Look at the pictures and read the articles. Thats what Rugby league is about!

Spot on! I agree 100%

Re: Chris Caisley sometime in the mid 90s : Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:22 pm  

Pencil wrote:

He was worth more than Offiah because the Saints paid more a few years later.

If you think 200k was a fair price for Newlove at the time then you should be somewhere, where sharp objects is prohibited.

Saints paid Bradford £250k for newlove, if you want to include add ons and stuff Wigan paid Widnes far more than the recorded figure.
TBF I prefer crayons to pencils anyway, they taste far nicer!!!

Re: Chris Caisley sometime in the mid 90s : Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:35 pm  

Bulliac wrote:

Petty, small minded, amoeba - like, but mostly just pathetic.

It's better than being greedy, cheating, manipulative and corupt.

Comments like this just want me to go 'tick tock 9 days to go'. I hope you go bust and a buyer can't be found for the liquadated club.

Re: Chris Caisley sometime in the mid 90s : Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:40 pm  

kinleycat wrote:

Saints paid Bradford £250k for newlove, if you want to include add ons and stuff Wigan paid Widnes far more than the recorded figure.
TBF I prefer crayons to pencils anyway, they taste far nicer!!!

Any stationary that you can draw an artist impression of a new ground will probably do any Wakefield fan.