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: Fri Apr 24, 2009 11:34 am  
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It's like looking at a car crash. You know it's going to be nasty but you just can't help yourself.


I await the "must win" Celtic game with even more interest. That has the potential to be just as bad!

Who knows though, we may yet have a miraculous near miss at Saints and emerge victorious.
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: Fri Apr 24, 2009 11:42 am  
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It is ok. FA (Feigning Alzheimers) has a habit of forgetting the bigger picture and instead picks out the one point that suits his argument.

I know the point that he is making, and, if it was on the back of a good win v Leeds and a run of decent form it would be very good odds indeed. However, it is not. It is two weeks after a win against an out of sorts Leeds side (who were thumped at home by Salford three days later) and it follows a defeat to Wakefield and a humiliation against a side who were, until last week, worse than we were.

12/1 would be good odds if the horses were of similar stature. However, not so much if the two horses included one impressive thoroughbred and one Blackpool donkey.

Why, in response to an innocuous post about big odds in 2 horse races, have you attempted to get into a personal pissing contest with me?

Rhetorical question, as I know the answer. As I am in a good mood, I'll ignore it, and simply say that you've completely missed the point, as I am not talking about the chances of a specific Bradford win in a specific game, but about the objective fact that 12/1 (or even better 16/1) is good odds in a two horse race.

In betting terms, tonight is nothing more than just the next in the series of such betting events. It is THAT sequence, going back a hundred years or more, and covering a plethora of different sporting contests, which is the relevant "bigger picture". Whether this particular horse does or does not win this particular race is not relevant.

If you want to look at specifics, then we could start with the Leeds game. Although the Bulls were not as rank outsiders in that game, the odds were very attractive as a betting proposition. NOT as a Bulls fan, or indeed a Leeds fan, but as a dispassionate investor of dosh. As a result of this, I made a decent amount of money, backing the quite substantial underdog in a two dog race.

As a result of that, I will remain substantially "in front" regardless of tonight. And outsiders, even rank outsiders will continue occasionally to bring home the bacon, from time to time.

And people might even be able to discuss the odd general point like this one, without you piling in with yet more personal abuse and "how unbelievably crap are the Bulls" (or is that Blackpool donkeys) remarks.
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: Fri Apr 24, 2009 12:50 pm  
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I'll ignore it, and simply say that you've completely missed the point,


I am not missing the point at all. I know the point that you are making. It is just a crap point. :wink:

Heck, of course outsiders win sometimes. You only have to look at this years Grand National for evidence of that fact and I do not have a problem with that point whatsoever.

It is just that fact that someone could read this, and not know anything about rugby league (please avoid the obvious one lads. :wink: ) and see your point and think, Flippin' 'eck, This side just beat Leeds, they must be pretty ok, when actually the opposite is a lot closer to the truth.

Instead of finding odds of 12/1 attractive, I am more disappointed to see that that is the kind of odds that we are now being offered as it shows exactly how far we have fallen.

(and far from trying to start a "p!ssing contest", I am merely disagreeing with your point. One assumes that is still ok on a message forum? )
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: Fri Apr 24, 2009 12:54 pm  
Ferocious Aardvark wrote:
...a personal pissing contest...


Well, who else? wrote:
...a "p!ssing contest"...


If it looks like a duck, and it walks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck...
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: Fri Apr 24, 2009 1:06 pm  
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SNIP


If the Bulls win tonight, I think we may have uncovered the underlying problems behind the scenes.

There is a complex betting circle within the Bulls camp, players playing unbelievably poorly until a big game comes up which we are "sure to get pasted" and BANG......£££££££'s in!!
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: Fri Apr 24, 2009 1:09 pm  
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If the Bulls win tonight, I think we may have uncovered the underlying problems in the camp.

There is a complex betting circle within the Bulls camp, players unbelievably poorly until a big game comes up which we are "sure to get pasted" and BANG......£££££££'s in!!


:SHHH: :SHHH: :SHHH: :SHHH: :SHHH: We haven't quite finished paying for our villas in the Cayman Islands yet...
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: Fri Apr 24, 2009 1:14 pm  
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:SHHH: :SHHH: :SHHH: :SHHH: :SHHH: We haven't quite finished paying for our villas in the Cayman Islands yet...


Well you could have dealt me in......!
Life savings on a Bulls win tonight then.
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: Fri Apr 24, 2009 1:30 pm  
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If it looks like a duck, and it walks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck...


How sweet, defending your dame. Such chivalry.
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: Fri Apr 24, 2009 1:41 pm  
Well, Matty Johns has just told the Aussie viewing public to tune in for the Sunday afternoon delayed telecast because it's a top of the table clash...
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: Fri Apr 24, 2009 1:44 pm  
mystic eddie wrote:
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(and far from trying to start a "p!ssing contest", I am merely disagreeing with your point. ..


I felt that when you unpleasantly put
mystic eddie wrote:
FA (Feigning Alzheimers)

... it went beyond 'mere disagreement'.

mystic eddie wrote:
... defending your dame. ..

... is more of the unpleasant same.
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