: Fri Mar 20, 2009 10:56 am  

Oh good, another debate. That will get it built. Pity we can't power the diggers with hot air...

: Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:55 pm  

If it ment getting Odsal redeveloped then I'd be happy sharing with virtually anyone. Oh that takes me back to my school days.

: Fri Mar 20, 2009 1:40 pm  

http://www.bcst.co.uk/?q=node/1508 David Pendleton opened proceedings by explaining that he had organised this event so that City fans could discuss the situation about ground-sharing and related issues among themselves. He would be inviting the Leader of Bradford Council, representatives of other political parties and of Bradford City FC and the Bradford Bulls to take part in a similar meeting before the next home game vs. Port Vale on March 21. He then outlined the situation facing Bradford Bulls, who cannot continue in their present stadium for much longer, and have enlisted the support of the Council in helping to build them a new venue through the Odsal Sports Village (OSV) project. This is the latest in a long line of Council initiatives to help the Bulls, which is in marked contrast to their relationship with Bradford City, as David explained by referring to a number of historical examples, including the attitude of the Council at the time of City’s financial crisis in 2004 My impression of their attitude was that they did their level best to shove the Bulls to VP so that the pay-off on the lease would go straight to City, bailing them out. I also don't see the comparison between the 2004 BCFC crisis, born of ludicrous mismanagement and the Bulls' problems which stem from Bradford Council's mismanagement of Odsal.

http://www.bcst.co.uk/?q=node/1508 David Pendleton opened proceedings by explaining that he had organised this event so that City fans could discuss the situation about ground-sharing and related issues among themselves. He would be inviting the Leader of Bradford Council, representatives of other political parties and of Bradford City FC and the Bradford Bulls to take part in a similar meeting before the next home game vs. Port Vale on March 21. He then outlined the situation facing Bradford Bulls, who cannot continue in their present stadium for much longer, and have enlisted the support of the Council in helping to build them a new venue through the Odsal Sports Village (OSV) project. This is the latest in a long line of Council initiatives to help the Bulls, which is in marked contrast to their relationship with Bradford City, as David explained by referring to a number of historical examples, including the attitude of the Council at the time of City’s financial crisis in 2004 My impression of their attitude was that they did their level best to shove the Bulls to VP so that the pay-off on the lease would go straight to City, bailing them out. I also don't see the comparison between the 2004 BCFC crisis, born of ludicrous mismanagement and the Bulls' problems which stem from Bradford Council's mismanagement of Odsal.

: Fri Mar 20, 2009 1:58 pm  

Every time Pendleton speaks he seems to be having a go at the Bulls, by whingeing about the councils' alleged extreme financial bias in favour of Bulls at the expense of City. His slant seems to be that the Bulls have for years been showered with reams of free money whereas poor old City have been ignored. The agenda is clear - they want to stay at VP at all costs, presumably paid for by giant subs from the Council, and for the Bulls to be kicked off Odsal and be second class citizen tenants paying huge rents etc through the nose to "ground share" the VP concrete monstrosity.

: Fri Mar 20, 2009 2:24 pm  

I find it odd that so many of the most vocal critics of City moving to Odsal seem to be under the impression that Odsal will remain in its current state when it is obvious that the OSV development is a pre-requisite.

: Fri Mar 20, 2009 2:55 pm  

af wrote:

I find it odd that so many of the most vocal critics of City moving to Odsal seem to be under the impression that Odsal will remain in its current state when it is obvious that the OSV development is a pre-requisite.

Cos the majority of City fans are dumb?

: Fri Mar 20, 2009 3:12 pm  

af wrote:

I also don't see the comparison between the 2004 BCFC crisis, born of ludicrous mismanagement and the Bulls' problems which stem from Bradford Council's mismanagement of Odsal.

Bradford Northern/Bulls have had plenty of years to sort themselves out somewhere to play without having to rely on the council have they not?

[Bullseye]

: Fri Mar 20, 2009 4:29 pm  

The council's mismanagement of Odsal since 1985/86 is largely the reason it's in such a mess now. Had they managed to complete the proposed development for the Speedway WC final then the ground would have had two completed stands and terracing all the way around plus additional buildings for the club. Unfortuantely the scheme went by the wayside when it was half complete, leaving the club with a ground less suited for RL than beforehand.

I can understand City fans wish to stay put. It's the same for Bulls supporters. It'll be a devil of a job to persuade either party to move across town.

The only way I can see city fans maybe moving is if the new OSV bears no relation to the present Odsal and is badged up 50/50 as Bulls & City. Even then many would be against it.

Similarly I can't see Bulls fans putting up with a move to VP unless the future of the club was at risk. That's more likely to be due to finance than any RFL marking too.

: Fri Mar 20, 2009 4:30 pm  

Asim wrote:

Bradford Northern/Bulls have had plenty of years to sort themselves out somewhere to play without having to rely on the council have they not?

Yes, they've had billions sitting in the bank just waiting for a site to come up. The interest alone must run in to millions now. They should just buy Old Trafford and get on with it.

: Fri Mar 20, 2009 6:24 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

Yes, they've had billions sitting in the bank just waiting for a site to come up. The interest alone must run in to millions now. They should just buy Old Trafford and get on with it.

Well it's tough sh*t isn't it?

I'd love a much bigger and better place to live, but I aint whining that no-one else will sort it out for me, the reason the club is at the mercy of the council is because they, historically, never thought being in charge of their own destiny was worth it.