Re: Preview of 2013 squad - who's left plus rumours : Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:27 am  

Cibaman wrote:

One more prop to sign according to Cummins

Does that look like we're spending the maximum salary cap?

Its pretty obvious were not looking at the players in and out. key comment from FC is that another player will place us on budget, rather than upto salary cap. TBF the comments from the club have always been carefully worded , that we CAN spend upto to the salary cap, not that we WILL spend upto the cap. But think theyd have been better served being more honest about us having a budget to work to. Think most fans will accept that given the circumstances. The lack of openess around the amount being spent just brings back memories of the doublespeak we used to get from the previous owners.

Re: Preview of 2013 squad - who's left plus rumours : Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:29 am  

http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/s ... s_Cummins/ Senior people at the club are saying we have the full salary cap, FC is talking about a squad which is woefully thin yet 'up the budget'. Nas Scrutes Langley Evans AN Other (Sidlow?) With the added issue of no Elima or Langley in the backrow and odds firmly against Scruton playing 10 games and Evans never having played SL. Lots of good things happening at the club but this a recipe for finishing in the bottom 3.

http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/s ... s_Cummins/ Senior people at the club are saying we have the full salary cap, FC is talking about a squad which is woefully thin yet 'up the budget'. Nas Scrutes Langley Evans AN Other (Sidlow?) With the added issue of no Elima or Langley in the backrow and odds firmly against Scruton playing 10 games and Evans never having played SL. Lots of good things happening at the club but this a recipe for finishing in the bottom 3.

[Bullseye]

Re: Preview of 2013 squad - who's left plus rumours : Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:40 am  

We do look light in the forwards, even with another prop to come in. I'd be very surprised if we hit the cap limit this season. The improved deals for the likes of Bateman and Gale are unlikely to have swallowed up the money freed up by the loss of Kopout, Elima, Hargreaves, Burgess, Sibbit, Sykes, Crookes, Ainscough, Pryce, Joseph and Jeffries.

I think we'll do better than bottom 3 but we'll struggle when the injuries hit in the forwards. Also we appear not to have any backup in the halves with Southernwood rumoured to have gone to Whitehaven.

Re: Preview of 2013 squad - who's left plus rumours : Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:52 am  

M@islebugs wrote:

With odds firmly against Scruton playing 10 games

the past is no signpost to the future. (even if it were, your statistics are wrong. 2010 21 games 2011 14 games 2012 7 games so 2:1 on more than 10 games.) But presumably you know the surgeon and rehab team and they have told you the operation has been a complete failure, and thats what your comment is based on. In which case you had better tell FC pretty quickly.

Re: Preview of 2013 squad - who's left plus rumours : Tue Nov 13, 2012 9:36 am  

martinwildbull wrote:

the past is no signpost to the future. (even if it were, your statistics are wrong. 2010 21 games 2011 14 games 2012 7 games so 2:1 on more than 10 games.) But presumably you know the surgeon and rehab team and they have told you the operation has been a complete failure, and thats what your comment is based on. In which case you had better tell FC pretty quickly.

Indeed the past is frequently a signpost to the future. Since being diagnosed with diabetes he's played 7 games. In the past two seasons combined he's played 21 games. The last player at the club with a similar condition played 0 games. In each of the last three seasons he's played less games than the season before.

Re: Preview of 2013 squad - who's left plus rumours : Tue Nov 13, 2012 9:37 am  

martinwildbull wrote:

the past is no signpost to the future. (even if it were, your statistics are wrong. 2010 21 games 2011 14 games 2012 7 games so 2:1 on more than 10 games.) But presumably you know the surgeon and rehab team and they have told you the operation has been a complete failure, and thats what your comment is based on. In which case you had better tell FC pretty quickly.

Add to that scruton was back playing in u20s at back end of season but MP wouldn't disrupt a team that was winning at time so he couldn't get selected. The u20 appearances won't show up in his appearances total for the season.

Re: Preview of 2013 squad - who's left plus rumours : Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:16 am  

Worryingly thin squad if only 1 more player is coming in.

Lets hope FC knows what he's doing. Potter had faith in him, therefore so do i.

Re: Preview of 2013 squad - who's left plus rumours : Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:30 am  

I can't help but comment, as I did some months back, that anyone who is expecting us to be spending the full cap or challenging for the title when we are on half the Sky money, would make Mr. Micawber look like a suicidal manic depressive.

It isn't a case of whether FC knows what he's doing. If you suggested to any of the other clubs that they'd need to get through the 2013 season having taken away half their Sky money, they would look at you as if you'd gone mad. We need to accept that as things stand, that is our 2013 reality.

Re: Preview of 2013 squad - who's left plus rumours : Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:33 am  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

I can't help but comment, as I did some months back, that anyone who is expecting us to be spending the full cap or challenging for the title when we are on half the Sky money, would make Mr. Micawber look like a suicidal manic depressive.

It isn't a case of whether FC knows what he's doing. If you suggested to any of the other clubs that they'd need to get through the 2013 season having taken away half their Sky money, they would look at you as if you'd gone mad. We need to accept that as things stand, that is our 2013 reality.

Yeah, that's all fair enough but senior club people have stated in public that FC does have the full cap. Which is it? (Not expecting you to answer, merely appreciate the mixed message)

[Bullseye]

Re: Preview of 2013 squad - who's left plus rumours : Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:42 am  

M@islebugs wrote:

Yeah, that's all fair enough but senior club people have stated in public that FC does have the full cap. Which is it? (Not expecting you to answer, merely appreciate the mixed message)

Aye. There's nothing wrong with saying "we can spend up to the full cap but won't be spending it all if the right players aren't available". It may have been better to say that. Are the club worried that they not be seen as a real player unless they say they're spending the full cap?

Leeds often used to let it be known they were under the cap and nobody thought they weren't up to it.

Despite all this I'm still just happy to have a club to support next year.