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Notice that Ross refers to donno as last remaining OOC player. Is that an oversight or does it mean a decisions been made about mcavoy?


It can't be an oversight because Ross specifically mentioned Liam to me in his reply on twitter.
So it either means he was only referring to 2011 squad players who were OOC, or Liam won't be a Bull next season :(
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Yeah that's why I thought it was odd that Ross overlooked him. Pretty certain mcavoy was a member of the 2012 squad.
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Great news Donaldson's signed up. Still think he is going to be one of the best
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wouldnt surprise me if McAvoys deal is being held up by the frontline prop, thats why its up in the air. and if that as posted earlier involves a px for one of our players then theres a bit more work and time involved. previous comments have been along the lines of at least two more props, one frontline, we would be daft to be looking anywhere else than McAvoy for the reserve/squad player. and not a good signal to major new sponsors that are keen to support the youth development side to ignore an England Academy player.
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wouldnt surprise me if McAvoys deal is being held up by the frontline prop, thats why its up in the air. and if that as posted earlier involves a px for one of our players then theres a bit more work and time involved. previous comments have been along the lines of at least two more props, one frontline, we would be daft to be looking anywhere else than McAvoy for the reserve/squad player. and not a good signal to major new sponsors that are keen to support the youth development side to ignore an England Academy player.



Agree I think Mcavoy will sign back on :ROCKS:
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I have no particular problem about James Donaldson being signed, albeit he does have something still to prove after all his injury setbacks.

However, my concern is about the unbalanced nature of the squad. The three back row positions are now to be contested between Bateman, Whitehead, Olbison, Addy, Langley, Donaldson, Blythe and Walker. Granted Blythe and (at a push) Walker can play in the Centre, and Langley might be used as a prop

But we now have 8 players who can realistically play SL level in the back row, yet we have pretty well no cover if one of our two half backs gets injured, and - as people keep saying - we don't have enough props to field a foursome (awesome or otherwise)
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Wen fit and on form we have scruton, langley and nas who are capable of long minutes at prop. covering with ben evans, maybe mcavoy and one other it is not that bad at prop.
Also feel there will be room for manouvre with cap during season for emergency loans /impromptu signings who become available during the year, as I don't think cummins is spending the full amount maybe for this reason. I guess I would rather not fill the deck for sake of it but there may not be people becoming available or interested in joining us.
I see Keith mason is continually being linked with a move and Jon Molloy has been released As well as Sidlow being mentioned.
If as being rumoured but not seen it confirmed anywhere that Cain is going permanently I am more worried about the halves as neither sammut or gale endured injury free years.

Also quickly looking at the dewsbury squad and noted three players who we may borrow at some point as I suppose a quick loan between us may be possible and advantageous for both clubs... Dario esposito front or back rower with skill and pace italy international and experience of queensland cup. Aaron Brown stand off or Loose forward from leeds academy who was not really likely to unsurp mcguire, sinfield, ward, hardaker etc. And they have signed Tom lilycrop who left our academy to go to wakey but his reputation is still good.
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Also quickly looking at the dewsbury squad and noted three players who we may borrow at some point as I suppose a quick loan between us may be possible and advantageous for both clubs... Dario esposito front or back rower with skill and pace italy international and experience of queensland cup. Aaron Brown stand off or Loose forward from leeds academy who was not really likely to unsurp mcguire, sinfield, ward, hardaker etc. And they have signed Tom lilycrop who left our academy to go to wakey but his reputation is still good.


Would rather have Morro than any of that lot, even at his age.

The difference between SL and the Championship is massive, it's rare that you get players stepping up and proving a great aquisition. Royston looked good for us in patches, but he struggled fitness wise. Briggs was the main man at Fev till he came to us and he was erratic at best.

OK, Hill at Wire has been great, but I doubt he'd have looked as good playing for the Broncos.

Brown could be one we get first dabs on if he turns out to be any good, but if he had much about him, there are enough Yorkshire clubs in SL around that could have taken a punt on him once he was known to be leaving Leeds.

We are light in the front row and halfback. I'd be surprised if we rely on Cain to supply back up in the halves. I don't recall him doing much when not injured while at Dewsbury. Cummins can only go with what's available though, so we may see L'Estrange and Addy backing up the halves with O'Brien getting more game time at hooker if we lose either of Jarrod or Gale.

Props are a worry as they lay the platform. Would be concerned if we are relying Scrutes and Langers for a full season as they regularly miss a fair share of games, Langers seeming to get those "he'll be back next week" injuries that last a month, while Scrutes goes the whole hog and does his injuries for the season.

Props will pick up injuries as they generally take the heavier collisions, so it makes sense that we need more than we currently have. Resigning McEvoy, plus getting hold of an experienced prop such as Mason (even though he has injury history) will at least boost the numbers. You'd hope we don't get the same level of injuries we experienced last year too.....meaning even though we might have a few guys with bad records in that regards, you'd hope for rub of the green and a few players keeping clear of the bad ones.
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Langley played 23 games last year so recent injury record is good. going to prop might mean less work for him and therefore even less injury.
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New prop and Langley starting, with Big Nas as impact off the bench with Scruton (however, he would have less of an impact than Nas), with Evans and McAvoy (if he is re-signed) as back up.
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