: Wed Apr 08, 2009 2:28 pm  

Adeybull wrote:

Contracted to end of 2010. No idea of his actual package, but it must surely be nearer six-figures than not per annum, if not already there? He'd be due compensation for the unexpired period of his contract. Salary and benefits for about 20-21 months must be easily into six figures?

If the contract provided for payment in lieu of notice (as opposed to just a period of notice) then there would probably be an employers' NIC liability on top.

Its a bit more complex than that obviously, and that's only from things I am qualified to comment on - and there is the duty to mitigate any loss - but that's where I am coming from.

Cheers, that's very helpful. From what we know of such contracts are there not performance clauses, or other potential opt-outs. I'm presuming there is some form of performance review system that is in place. Frankly I'm also surprised to hear he is likely to be on £100k plus, I would have thought an untried coach who was promoted to that position would be on less. I'm also wondering whether appointing someone as Director of Rugby and effectively demoting him (without demoting him contractually), might precipitate his leaving. It doesn't seem impossible to imagine a scenario where we could get him to leave should that be the consensus. I realise a DoR would involve extra cost, but the trade-off between that and falling turnstile revenue must surely be worth consideration?

: Wed Apr 08, 2009 3:26 pm  

I'm not suggesting that we should fire the coach, but I dont think his payoff should be the determining factor. I dont think any coach should be fire proof just because it would cost £100k to get rid of them. The impact that the coach can have on the team is just too great for that to be an insurmountable barrier. Even if it meant in the short term sacrificing a couple of squad places eg not replacing Tupou.

As for the back up staff, again that just shouldnt be an issue. I cant see the Bulls recruiting a coach of such standing that he would expect or insist on a mass clear out. Any decent coach would be prepared to work initially with existing staff and, if necessary, replace them gradually.

: Wed Apr 08, 2009 9:40 pm  

I don’t think that Bradford are in a financial position to release McBanana which means you’re stuck with know-nowt chancer until his contacts up.

Compound this with a ‘vote of confidence’ (which, as we all know, really means we’re really p*ssed off but can’t do anything about it) from your board and he aint going anywhere for the foreseeable future.

: Thu Apr 09, 2009 6:21 am  

TBH, if we have given this fraud a deal till 2010 then we deserve all we get. Showing no ambition leads to decline.

: Thu Apr 09, 2009 12:02 pm  

mystic eddie wrote:

Showing no ambition leads to decline.

Lack of ambition really isn't this club's problem. Greetings from the Blue Mountains, btw.

: Thu Apr 09, 2009 12:03 pm  

af wrote:

Lack of ambition really isn't this club's problem. Greetings from the Blue Mountains, btw.

Jammy Bugger!!!

Where you staying?

: Thu Apr 09, 2009 12:05 pm  

af wrote:

Lack of ambition really isn't this club's problem. Greetings from the Blue Mountains, btw.

Well they have a funny way of showing this ambition.

: Thu Apr 09, 2009 12:28 pm  

af wrote:

Lack of ambition really isn't this club's problem.

Isn't it? What is the problem then?

[Bullseye]

: Thu Apr 09, 2009 1:01 pm  

mystic eddie wrote:

Isn't it? What is the problem then?

Lack of money. Isn't it obvious?????

: Thu Apr 09, 2009 1:15 pm  

Bullseye wrote:

Lack of money. Isn't it obvious?????

Not to those pursuing a single agenda, who refuse to admit the existence of anything which does not accord with that agenda.