Re: Administration 3 - now in technicolour : Wed Nov 23, 2016 11:19 am  

I'd echo most of that. I'm ok with 3-5 years as long as the club has no more winding up orders, staff not being paid and threats of administration. Each year finishing top 4 and getting some games against SL opposition would be enough for me as long as the long term plan was there and the club was stable.

I agree though the club will have a great difficulty selling tickets if we get hit with a 12 point penalty. Whilst I'm not worried about relegation, as I think we have a good enough squad to overturn that deficit, we are not going to be challenging for anything other than the Championship Shield again. Whilst the hardcore will accept that and still turn up, any remaining floaters might just sack this season off and come back the year after when we start on 0 again.

[Bullseye]

Re: Administration 3 - now in technicolour : Wed Nov 23, 2016 11:21 am  

Even with a 12 point deficit if we're playing good rugby and challenging the top 4 teams it may not be the disaster in attendances we fear.

I can see where you're coming from though. It'll be a test to motivate players to excel when there's no incentive other than personal pride.

Re: Administration 3 - now in technicolour : Wed Nov 23, 2016 11:25 am  

Bullseye wrote:

I can see where you're coming from though. It'll be a test to motivate players to excel when there's no incentive other than personal pride.

You could see some players lost a bit of motivation as soon as we were in the Championship Shield in 2016 (understandably in some cases). Imagine what it'll be like if they're essentially playing for it from Day 1.

I think the fact we're probably down to mainly the hardcore fanbase already may mean the fans don't take too much of a hit, but again it may depend on ticket prices. It's going to be a hard sell for a £230 (or whatever Green's set price was, I forget now) season ticket when you know you're playing for Championship Shield at best. Same for a £20+ matchday price. A very hard sell.

Re: Administration 3 - now in technicolour : Wed Nov 23, 2016 11:27 am  

Bullseye wrote:

Even with a 12 point deficit if we're playing good rugby and challenging the top 4 teams it may not be the disaster in attendances we fear.

I can see where you're coming from though. It'll be a test to motivate players to excel when there's no incentive other than personal pride.

The idea of a heavy deduction, like that before and taking our sky money only damages the well being of the club, in the supporters and players..

I'm sure its been covered before but the owner who incurs the debt just walks..

Another point that rubs me up a bit is the last 2 owners have been rubber stamped by the RFL so shouldn't they shoulder a bit of the blame?
The Hood admin was down to our own poor management.

[Bullseye]

Re: Administration 3 - now in technicolour : Wed Nov 23, 2016 11:40 am  

Each admin was our own fault but I agree that giving a new guy a job to do with one hand tied behind his back is only going to increase the chances of it going wrong again.

Rules is rules though, and we'll get nowhere fighting the RFL no matter how bizarre those rules seem.

Re: Administration 3 - now in technicolour : Wed Nov 23, 2016 11:51 am  

Taking to Twitter, @Rod_Studd said, "Bidders shouldn't have to convince an administrator. They should have to convince the Bulls fans. The fans should be interviewing bidders."

Re: Administration 3 - now in technicolour : Wed Nov 23, 2016 11:55 am  

Bullseye wrote:

Rules is rules though, and we'll get nowhere fighting the RFL no matter how bizarre those rules seem.

Pretty sure if we looked at the rules in 2012 there would have been nowhere that "said a club will be fined 50% of sky money and shared amongst other clubs"

Re: Administration 3 - now in technicolour : Wed Nov 23, 2016 11:56 am  

Everyone is worried about getting a 12 point deduction. But that is only 6 games. This year we dropped a total of 18 points at least 10 of which we shouldn't have.

Assuming we come out of administration in tact and hold onto our squad, then I do not believe a top 4 spot is beyond the ability of this team.

[Pumpetypump]

Re: Administration 3 - now in technicolour : Wed Nov 23, 2016 12:12 pm  

roofaldo2 wrote:

Everyone is worried about getting a 12 point deduction. But that is only 6 games. This year we dropped a total of 18 points at least 10 of which we shouldn't have.

Assuming we come out of administration in tact and hold onto our squad, then I do not believe a top 4 spot is beyond the ability of this team.

Where do they sell these cups that remain steadfastly half-full? Mine are always half-empty.

Re: Administration 3 - now in technicolour : Wed Nov 23, 2016 12:37 pm  

bullsonfire wrote:

Taking to Twitter, @Rod_Studd said, "Bidders shouldn't have to convince an administrator. They should have to convince the Bulls fans. The fans should be interviewing bidders."

As much as I want to make sure the right person is in charge, I can also happily admit that this Pettit bloke and his company are probably better qualified to know who can run the business properly than I am.

Rod's sentiment is a good one, but I don't think he necessarily thinks before he tweets.