Re: Fans Meeting Monday : Mon Jul 02, 2012 8:57 am  

bobsmyuncle wrote:

Firstly, well done to the organisers of the Guide Post meet. Whether it is productive or not it will be a rally for those of us who currently feel disillusioned and impotent. We want to do something to help but dont know what.

I shall be there but have reservations atm for what's going to happen.

What is the purpose of the meeting? What are it's objectives and what will it seek to achieve?
What is the agenda, and who will run the meeting so that it sticks to it's objectives - otherwise it could degenerate into a mob shouting match.

"Bull Builder" is the Bradford Bulls Supporters Trust with all legal admin and structure in place so priorities should not include setting up another Trust.
Perhaps Bull Builder have been remiss in not organising a similar meeting, but they clearly need to be invited now to help this meeting.

So, who is going to this tonight? And what do we think might be a realisitc aim to get out of the night?

I would suggest a unified approach going forward between this new fan movement born out of the crisis and the excisting supporters trust of Bullbuilder.

A suggestion to the administrator/potential investors that there might be scope after this week for more fan involvement going forward (assuming there is a future) with the involvement presumably linked to the size of the the surving club. (smaller and lower down the league the more potential for involvement I would presume.)

Further than that I would guess its just trying to get some honest answers from BG as to what is in the pipeline this week and the potential fallout next week....can we even stage the game on Sun?


....oh and I don't really do facebook, so I have no idea if an agenda is out there or the meeting might be just winging it?

Re: Fans Meeting Monday : Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:32 am  

2 things I'm looking for from tonight if the grim reaper is there. 1. How far off are we from putting the game on on Sunday? 2. Will season tickets be honoured? - I'd be happy to pay on the gate if it helps the club get through this but some people simply can't afford right now especially if they are paying for a family to go. Better they're in the ground buying drinks etc. than not there at all.

Re: Fans Meeting Monday : Mon Jul 02, 2012 10:26 am  

Adeybull wrote:

Peter Hood made reference, just before Bullmageddon, to a future new model for ownership. I suspect that the long term future will indeed require a new ownership model. And it becomes increasingly clear to me that, in the absence of a sugar daddy, that model will have to involve the fans in some measure.

It has also been pretty clear to me that such a new model will take time and care to determine and establish.

Born out of a crisis maybe, I have never believed that a satisfactory sustainable long-term solution could be forged in the middle of a crisis. We need someone to put the fires out for now and buy enough time to do it properly. This is what I suspect the RFL may have been alluding to the other day.

Indeed, in supporting the pledge I hoped that that was what we were doing, although the Intervention seems to have put paid to that.

Maybe, just maybe, someone - I do not see how it can be the fans in the first instance, it has to be someone ready willing and immediately able to step in and finance and run it from day 1 - has the same idea. And will seek engagement with the fans about turning the club into some form of co- operative model for the longer term. That of course is where the vehicle of a supporters trust comes to the fore.

But we need that first step. Someone to buy us time to complete the season, whilst the future is put together. Which means someone who is prepared to themselves stand back in the future, once their transitional role has been completed.

If there is such a person out there, prepared to make a bid now and on that basis, they have every chance of being lauded by history in the same way as the great Trevor Foster has been.

That remains my view. And so I would hope that tonight might demonstrate - to potential investors - that there is are sufficient fans who do want to have a much more active involvement, and are prepared (according to ability and availability and what and how they can individually best contribute) to take steps to help bring a future new ownership model about.

Re: Fans Meeting Monday : Mon Jul 02, 2012 12:04 pm  

unless there is some more news by the end of the day I suspect the mood of this meeting might have just changed? We need to keep it focused and productive, whoevers going don't let it fall into a slanging and blaming match.

Re: Fans Meeting Monday : Mon Jul 02, 2012 12:53 pm  

Not much chance of that after today's bloodbath!!

Re: Fans Meeting Monday : Mon Jul 02, 2012 12:54 pm  

Mirfieldbull wrote:

Not much chance of that after today's bloodbath!!

Then it would be best to cancel or postpone it. Pooring oil on the fire won't help anyone.

Re: Fans Meeting Monday : Mon Jul 02, 2012 1:09 pm  

For me the future now lies with a supporter run club in CC1. We have enough support to get behind such a venture. It can not be that expensive to fund if Hemel Stags and Northampton can get in. I would be willing to put more cash up for this if it means we can get rid of the scumbags responsible for the downfall of a great club.

Re: Fans Meeting Monday : Mon Jul 02, 2012 1:10 pm  

Is this meeting still going ahead ??? Cheers

Re: Fans Meeting Monday : Mon Jul 02, 2012 1:13 pm  

staffbull1973 wrote:

Is this meeting still going ahead ??? Cheers

it was organised through some face book group "the firm"??? not on here best check there. I suspect the answer will be".........................."followed by a "f### knows mate."

I would suggest there seems little point until we see all the moves play out, I highly doubt any fan involvement today could change the tack that seems to be set.

Re: Fans Meeting Monday : Mon Jul 02, 2012 1:17 pm  

What would be the chances of the fans buying the club post liquidation. I know it would have been better before they forked over £500k. But once liquidated, surely it's down to the best bid for the creditors, bar melting down the stands for scrap.

If the fans could pull enough money to pay the skeleton of the staff to the end of the season and pay the creditors the bare minimum, the fans could own the club, through a trust. Yes it's not alot of time, but how much would be needed for this?