Re: Administration 3 - now in technicolour : Sat Nov 19, 2016 12:42 pm  

Has the Bulls brand become tainted now?

Would a new owner or club be better off dropping the Bulls for a fresh start?

My personal preference would be Bradford RL with a traditional badge modelled on the city's tongue less wild boar and a white shirt with RAB hoop.

As far as the ground goes. Imo whoever buys it needs to make sure the club don't take on the sub lease with RFL.

We don't know if valley parade is a viable option though either. For a long time it crippled Bradford City. I can understand them not wanting to leave it's entirely right but if there is a Bradford RL team after this the new owner has to be able to do what needs to be done.

Anyone else bought flights to Toulouse like me? I'm going jet2 from Manchester with the whole family. If we aren't playing I won't be going to the game though.

Re: Administration 3 - now in technicolour : Sat Nov 19, 2016 2:53 pm  

Without covering decades of old arguments: The only people with money in Bradford are Morrisons. The people who objected to us developing Odsal was Morrisons. The only place we can legally play as an onging entity is Odsal. Odsal is not viable without a 4K crowd.
This should explain our problem.

[Bullseye]

Re: Administration 3 - now in technicolour : Sat Nov 19, 2016 4:53 pm  

My preference would be to keep the Bulls brand. I don't think it's tainted at all. People that have said as much have had their judgement coloured by dealings e.g Cummins.

The brand is the least of it. A period of years where we're able to to pay bills on time will see us right.

[Bulliac]

Re: Administration 3 - now in technicolour : Sat Nov 19, 2016 5:21 pm  

Doesn't seem much to ask when it's presented like that...

Re: Administration 3 - now in technicolour : Sat Nov 19, 2016 5:45 pm  

A rose by any other name?

Re: Administration 3 - now in technicolour : Sat Nov 19, 2016 8:29 pm  

rugbyreddog wrote:

Without covering decades of old arguments: The only people with money in Bradford are Morrisons. The people who objected to us developing Odsal was Morrisons. The only place we can legally play as an onging entity is Odsal. Odsal is not viable without a 4K crowd.
This should explain our problem.

Erm only prob is Morrisons are trying to turn it round themselves,I'm afraid they see themselves more than a bradford brand these days also

Re: Administration 3 - now in technicolour : Sat Nov 19, 2016 8:58 pm  

Slugger McBatt wrote:

Let's say Green enters into administration to stop the HMRC winding up the Bulls due to a £240,000 debt to them. Let's say that that the club (i.e., the company registered with the RFL) owes Green personally £760,000 by way of a directors loans and shares, etc. The Bulls can't avoid the full sanction of 12 points by Green cashing in the club's assets to get his personal investment back of £760,000.

When did he personally invest £760,000 though? And why would he get it back? It doesn't work like that.

[Bulliac]

Re: Administration 3 - now in technicolour : Sun Nov 20, 2016 10:30 am  

Surely not wrote:

Erm only prob is Morrisons are trying to turn it round themselves,I'm afraid they see themselves more than a bradford brand these days also

Well, I've often said, Ken Morrison can do as he wishes with his money, it is, after all his. That said, why he didn't want, for what would have been 'small change' to him, to finance a memorial or permanent advert for himself or the company he then ran, then I confess I honestly don't see his logic.

Neither do I really buy the idea that a national, or international, company can't do something for local sport in its heartland - there are many examples, from Halifax PLC in errm Halifax, Northern Rock in Newcastle and Walkers in Leicester to name just three of many who do so in this country. If you want a fourth then how about Provident in Bradford..

Re: Administration 3 - now in technicolour : Sun Nov 20, 2016 10:58 am  

I've supported Bradford since the Northern days, we were a good club then, not fantastic, not the best, but a good club, that i enjoyed watching at a rain soaked speedway track called odsal. I introduced both my very young sons to the game and they became bulls fans, and for years we attended games together as the Bulls led the way in the early days of the super league razzamataz, largest crowds, and some silverware.

All of us regular season ticket holders for years, spent £000's on merchandise; bought a program every game, bought all videos of home games, new home and away shirts every season, gifts from the bulls shop every birthday and christmas.
We even went to Odsal during the week to watch the players train, it was like a home to us, happy times, we were on high, and we supported bulls through and through; even introduced my footie mad brother to bulls mania. When times started getting tough we readily dipped our hands in our pockets.

Many many years later, both sons grown up and moved on, they're no longer bothered with watching a game at rain soaked odsal; sky subscription cancelled years ago, stopped getting season ticket, all old bulls shirts went to charity last month, programmes went to tip, videos gathering dust. Crooked or just bad owners have come and gone.

So now I stand a lonely old man, soaked through to the skin at a dreary odsal bowl, Bradford bulls were my life and it is ebbing away fast.

Like the Bulls, I feel me life has had highs and lows, I enjoyed the highs and struggled through the lows, but like many on here, I now feel exhausted, down-trodden, worn-out with the recent wave after wave of lows after lows (after Lowes).

I will never support another Rugby League team; I will always support Bradford, but I cant continue to carry their burden on my shoulders, its too depressing.
If we come out the other side - i'll be there; if we dont, it will be sad, very sad, the coffin lid is closing, the light is fading.
By the time the Bulls (by whatever name) get back to the glory days I'm afraid my bones will be ashes.

Thank you bulls players and fans, you gave me many memorable moments.

Re: Administration 3 - now in technicolour : Sun Nov 20, 2016 11:40 am  

rugbyreddog wrote:

The only place we can legally play as an onging entity is Odsal.

How does that work though?

Forgive me if I'm wrong but I would have thought the company owning Bradford Bulls has signed a sub lease with RFL. That company is currently in administration. Whoever buys the club from the administrators has a choice of which suppliers they want to continue with including the lease of the ground.

If they had a deal in place to play at a ground that met the criteria for whatever league they are in RFL are bound to accept it. If they insist they play at odsal how is that legal?

I'd tell them to shove it. They decided to buy the lease it's their problem what happens with it.

It can't be used as grounds to not accept a bid for reinstatement into the league as that should be seen as a totally separate decision.