Re: Bulls Takeover : Tue Oct 15, 2019 8:53 pm  

Betsy Bulls wrote:

As a club we seem to be in dire straits. This guy has come in, seemingly the only option, he has a reputation of getting clubs in similar positions back to life but hasn’t by his own admission, apparently got the financial clout to write a cheque to get rid of the debts. Whilst its tough on the fans, they need us now more than ever so if a scheme akin to what other clubs run, very successfully, is a big support to the owner is this unreasonable? IMO we have only two other options, liquidation or admin

I'm sure it's a reasonable suggestion for some fans, but it's not for me personally. A large part of my getting disillusioned with the club was the constant begging to the fans for money. Whether it through poor quality merchandise at high prices, or through high ticket prices. I personally got to a point where I was tired of the talk of "You have to pay for it" as we'd heard nothing else but that from Hood, Khan and Green for the previous few years (and this time I do include Khan deliberately). I'm not saying they're wrong to go down that route, but I was tired of shelling out so much money all the time and it still ending up tits up. So I said enough was enough and I walked away. I've not been back in just short of 2 years.
Whilst I'm willing to give any new owner a chance as I did the others, there are certain things that will pretty much have me sack it straight away. One of those is the same old "We need you to pay for it" no matter how it's dressed up. Personally I'd rather they say they have ideas and plans to make fans want to come back, to make them want to buy merchandise. Not just a fancy way of getting the begging bowl out again.

Re: Bulls Takeover : Tue Oct 15, 2019 8:59 pm  

Whilst I understand your point We need a quick fix now whilst we allow CB to get a handle on things, he can’t do both. I cling to the hope that eventually we get an owner who can add up and in the meantime I might be needed to help in a small sort of way

Re: Bulls Takeover : Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:02 pm  

Betsy Bulls wrote:

Whilst I understand your point We need a quick fix now whilst we allow CB to get a handle on things, he can’t do both. I cling to the hope that eventually we get an owner who can add up and in the meantime I might be needed to help in a small sort of way

The problem is, they've all said that. They've all said "you give us loads of money for the first couple of years, then we'll be high flying in Super League and be able to give you season tickets for a tenner". Well maybe not quite that extreme, but the point remains.
Even after all the crap, I think plenty of people will pay it and will be happy to help. I won't be one of them.

Re: Bulls Takeover : Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:04 pm  

Bulls4Champs wrote:

Does anybody know who "threatened" Gledhill for telling the truth and reporting facts last week? He never did say.

Mick, who was it?

It's probably best I don't mention who, but those people know who they are and as now being reported elsewhere, the scale of the debt originally disclosed on the Pulse and Full Eighty Minutes last week after I spoke with three of the largest creditors.

The supporters deserve to know the scale of debt and situation because this is very much backs to the wall, roll up your sleeves stuff to ensure the club survives the next 12 months.

Re: Bulls Takeover : Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:15 pm  

There's an interview with Kear on this week's League Express in which he says:

"There has been numerous meetings between the coaches and players and the proposed takeover group, and what we've heard has been very positive.
"That's not to say we're now going to come out and say we're going to win the championship.
"But it will be a positive thing if we have a sustainable club.
" we've had good communication with the prospective takeover group and there has been some in-depth discussions, and some reality, which is what we need.
"I'm a big believer that you can deal with facts, but it's very difficult to deal with rumours and speculation.
"We feel very positive that they have a handle on things that will allow the club to move forwards next season."

Interesting words and hopefully he's on board for next season if all this mess gets sorted first.

Re: Bulls Takeover : Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:29 pm  

Bully_Boxer wrote:

I fully expect the new potential owners are wanting some sort of supporter led vehicle to raise funds. I don't see why anyone would hold a fans forum BEFORE they've actually taken over.

What CB actually said was:

“I’m not so sure we’ll be able to get it over the line this week but maybe the middle of next week.”

So if he takes over then it looks 50/50 whether it will be done by the conclusion of the fans forum.

And yes 'we' are back.

A couple of days off will have been good for all of us.

Re: Bulls Takeover : Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:48 pm  

How many F$^*g times have we heard all this before. live within our means! we will have a sustainable club! i will put a bet on that we will lose most of our players and end up in the bottom 4 next season getting vexed of with the same old song. other teams and do it so why do we always seem to get the jar heads appointed by the RFL.

Re: Bulls Takeover : Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:49 pm  

bulls2487 wrote:

I have a feeling it will be something like majority of part time clubs do, raise funds for signings etc has worked particular well for Halifax and Fev amongst others.

That's ok if we are paying similar prices at the gate. Supporters have been paying hefty admission in the hope that it was keeping the club afloat. To find out that we've run up big debts and the chairman has gone missing is a kick in the teeth, so I don't expect many will be willingly digger deeper again. Might just be me who feels that way...

Re: Bulls Takeover : Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:57 pm  

MicktheGled wrote:

It's probably best I don't mention who, but those people know who they are and as now being reported elsewhere, the scale of the debt originally disclosed on the Pulse and Full Eighty Minutes last week after I spoke with three of the largest creditors.

The supporters deserve to know the scale of debt and situation because this is very much backs to the wall, roll up your sleeves stuff to ensure the club survives the next 12 months.

I don't see what how the rumoured debts can be cleared in 1-2 years.. how do we go from racking up huge debts to turning a profit and paying them all off in 2 years.. all sounds a bit fanciful to me.

Re: Bulls Takeover : Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:35 pm  

zapperbull wrote:

How many F$^*g times have we heard all this before. live within our means! we will have a sustainable club! i will put a bet on that we will lose most of our players and end up in the bottom 4 next season getting vexed of with the same old song. other teams and do it so why do we always seem to get the jar heads appointed by the RFL.

I suppose the only difference with CB and all the previous owners is that CB has an actual history of acting on his words and sorting out RL clubs in dire straights. None of the others had ever been in charge of running an RL club fully. I could be wrong but weren't Wakey in £2million+ debt when him Michael Carter took over. They had some tough years, and needed a bit of luck too, but look at them now and are debt free I believe. There will be a tough couple of years ahead but all I want is complete honesty. I'd rather have a club than no club at all,even if my loyalty is being tested right now.

I think next year will be about paying creditors (quite rightly) and trying to survive in the championship.