: Sun Mar 15, 2009 8:55 pm  

tigertot wrote:

Whilst I agree with you, anyone you could afford from Aus wont have "done anything" on the coaching front.
I DON'T THINK SO

That's not what I'm talking about, though. We've done well as have others with rookie Aus coaches (Matty Elliott, anyone?) and who was his young assistant at Bradford? It is not so much the proven coaching ability that I was talking about as Australian player knowledge and contacts, and I mentioned in only in context that we couldn't afford any of the top Aus halfbacks either who aren't in a Bird-like situation. These guys know players that English coaches can't know. I remember us bringing in people almost unknown over here like Danny Peacock and Jeremy Donougher who were outstanding successes (not youngsters but you see my point) who we would never have got except because of the Aus connection.

We can bring in as many of our youngsters as we like, and I hope we do, but we do look as if this season we are at sixes and sevens at 6 and 7 and the 'signing' of Bird suggests we know it too. I'd bet some of Iestyn's biggest past detractors would pay to have him back in the team just now. As Joni Mitchell sang, you don't know what you've got till it's gone.

Still, if we don't get anybody, today was a huge improvement attack-wise on what we've done in the previous 3 games, and people's form can improve. Jeffries was considerably improved, and it is only a short time ago that Deacon was playing very well for us so maybe he's just in a bad patch and maybe he'll get back to somewhere near the form which has served us so well over the years.

Re: Who Would you have replace Macca ? : Sun Mar 15, 2009 9:02 pm  

johnny freeman fan club wrote:

You apear to all be worried about dwindling crowds ,what was the attendance the last time Hull came to Odsal?

In the SL Regular Rds:

17-Jun-07 ..... 11,557
22-Jun-08 ..... 9,511
17-Aug-08 ..... 9,181
15-Mar-09 ..... 11,327

Pretty good today.

: Sun Mar 15, 2009 9:03 pm  

You're talking a lot of sense there FA, bet the usual suspects will ignore it

: Sun Mar 15, 2009 9:10 pm  

Difficult situation but the licence system does not lend it to quick hiring and firing.

Millward offers considerably more than McNamara but on rebuilding I don't think he has a great record of that.

I think you need to looklong term, but look beyong Macca. I would also probably avoid Lowes or Harrison.

Would probably go Brian McDermott if he would come.

Re: Who Would you have replace Macca ? : Sun Mar 15, 2009 9:31 pm  

Bullseye wrote:

Get ready for gates of 5-6k when we play Celtic and Catalans.

That's why the club needs a great big pick me up something to reignite the fans interest show that we still have ambition.

: Sun Mar 15, 2009 9:37 pm  

I think we should sack Mac as soon as possible and try the innovative stance of coaching by commitee. I am sure that there are enough know it all experts on here who could pool their talents and experience to pull the club out of the $hit we are in.

Re: Who Would you have replace Macca ? : Sun Mar 15, 2009 9:41 pm  

redeverready wrote:

That's why the club needs a great big pick me up something to reignite the fans interest show that we still have ambition.

Can't argue with that one bit. Irrefutable argument.

Just need some dosh to do it

Its too bloody depressing being an accountant, I've decided. Should have been a lawyer...

Re: Who Would you have replace Macca ? : Sun Mar 15, 2009 9:59 pm  

Adeybull wrote:

Can't argue with that one bit. Irrefutable argument.

Just need some dosh to do it :(

Its too bloody depressing being an accountant, I've decided. Should have been a lawyer...

Our mid 90's revival was sparked by selling our best player for a large sum and bringing in a new coach with the ability to make inspirational signings.

Wonder what price would we get for Sam Burgess?

Re: Who Would you have replace Macca ? : Sun Mar 15, 2009 10:06 pm  

Cibaman wrote:

Our mid 90's revival was sparked by selling our best player for a large sum and bringing in a new coach with the ability to make inspirational signings.

Wonder what price would we get for Sam Burgess?

Probably what we got for Fielden? And where did that money go? (I guess other than in the pockets of Leeds Rugby and the lawyers...?)

: Sun Mar 15, 2009 10:09 pm  

There would be an almighty scramble, Leeds, Wigan, Saints and Warrington would all be interested. I'd bet you would easily clear £250k.

I don't think this would be the answer though, you would be better off keeping him and other younger players and ditching the more experienced average or non performers. Over the next two or three years you must have a few well paid loafers (Solomona etc) coming off contract, just replace them with harder working hungrier (lol) players as they come up and you will get back to where you were a few years ago.

ps, am I right in saying that the Bulls dropped their youth system for a while some years ago? Maybe this is paying back a bit now? If I imagined the whole thing just pretend I never raised it.

pps, you should seriously look at getting shut of Michael Platt, he's a total liability.