: Tue Mar 10, 2009 1:09 pm  

tigertot wrote:

Cullen's gone to Widnes, another club now with a wealthy backer, so he's out of the reckoning.

In the interests of clarification re sugar daddies...?

: Tue Mar 10, 2009 2:46 pm  

Adeybull wrote:

Some of the Negative Tendency originally said give it ten games (for about two nanoseconds until they backslided anyway... )

Friends, Romans and tigertot, lend me your ears

Well afrter popular demand I will break my exile in the face of sensational on field performances against Wigan and to tell it like it is as always.

I originally said 10 games to Eddie but he has broken faith with me despite me promising the mother of all McBanana polls on my planned return after 10 games. For shame Eddie, for Shame Some perspective has been lacking over recent weeks in your ramblings.

Alas some on here have been losing the plot and even had the temerity to suggest 'the end of McBanana' Et tu Roofaldo, et tu...

I refuse to be seen as part of any tendency positive or negative. BUT someone has to come out against the rhetoric of the 'transitional season' being purported by the likes of FA and af. I don't want to support a club that is saying it is 'transtional' or 'building' after 3 games in. Why can't we be like McDermott and Morgan who have thrown the gauntlet down and already upset a few. The mentality at the club is defeatist and totally unacceptable IMO.

McBanana seems unable to turn around our fortunes - hes more like a droopy carrot at present, and too many are acting like apologists while in reality we are getting worse season on season. I will still give him the benefit of the doubt for 10 games though AS, beleive it or not, there have been positives.

1. Defense was great in first two games - rewind the clock a week and hey presto we're a different team

2. Some players have improve out of sight from last season - Nero to name but one. People should have had more faith like me all along.

3. Dare I say it but Platt is coming on too.

4. Menzies looks a class act, Morrison great as usual.

5. I reckon we'll start squeezing teams out more when Lynch gets back. He for me is the heart and soul of the team and to do without is like Leeds without Peacock or Senfield.

6. The food at the ground is improving. Although I fear this could be a negative if Solomona is given free reign of Odsal on a matchday

Wigan IMO was just a bad day at the office. But the overall decline is my worry. FA and af spout on about how we can't expect to win the easy beat teams any more but you guys are the same ones saying our pack can match it with anyone in the league - so which is it to be??? IMO our pack with a fit Lynch is the best in the league and if our backs can get some confidence back we SHOULD be expecting to finish in the top 4/5. So if things don't change drastically after 10 games I will be calling for sliced Banana...

But give him time yet. The bad run so far COULD be explained by the interupted start plus a bit of simple bad luck (Wigan).

All in all I feel we STILL have the personnel in place to be succuessful, improving on last year. Whilst criticsing in these forums is OK we need to get behind the boys next week when they are out on the paddock against Dull. COME ON YOU BULLS

: Tue Mar 10, 2009 2:54 pm  

Adeybull wrote:

Wigan, Warrington, Saints, Huddersfield, Salford, Leeds (to a point - he's there if needed), Hull KR (to a point, IIRC?) all do. I suspect Cats, Quins and Celtic won't be allowed to struggle financially by the RFL - and if so, probably rightly IMO. Not sure of the "sugar daddy" or otherwise status of Celtic or Quins (now). My latest understanding is that Hull FC(other than the good fortune of the stadium), Cas (good luck to them - does any Bulls fan not like Cas?) and Wakey are the other clubs without a wealthy backer. From my recollection, anyway.

If your "most clubs..." observation was aimed at all pro RL clubs then dead right; if aimed at SL-level clubs, then I suggest rather less so?

I was referring to all pro clubs. I have spent time at non-SL clubs getting changed under Batley's stand ducking under sheets of wet polythene stretched across the changing rooms to keep the leaks off you, 15 blokes sharing a cold shower (heee, it worr 'ard) etc. I would agree that those highlighted do have an advantage (bleedin' obvious), not that it guarantees you success. How Saints manage is beyond most.
The others I am not sure who is a sugar daddy, who is generous, who is suicidal. Hudds & HKR seem to be a model to follow. Steady growth on & off the pitch, but on paper no better squads than Bulls. Cats apart the others have (far?) worse squads.

: Tue Mar 10, 2009 2:59 pm  

Ancient Provocateur wrote:

Friends, Romans and tigertot, lend me your ears

Well afrter popular demand I will break my exile in the face of sensational on field performances against Wigan and to tell it like it is as always.

I originally said 10 games to Eddie but he has broken faith with me despite me promising the mother of all McBanana polls on my planned return after 10 games. For shame Eddie, for Shame Some perspective has been lacking over recent weeks in your ramblings.

Alas some on here have been losing the plot and even had the temerity to suggest 'the end of McBanana' Et tu Roofaldo, et tu...

I refuse to be seen as part of any tendency positive or negative. BUT someone has to come out against the rhetoric of the 'transitional season' being purported by the likes of FA and af. I don't want to support a club that is saying it is 'transtional' or 'building' after 3 games in. Why can't we be like McDermott and Morgan who have thrown the gauntlet down and already upset a few. The mentality at the club is defeatist and totally unacceptable IMO.

McBanana seems unable to turn around our fortunes - hes more like a droopy carrot at present, and too many are acting like apologists while in reality we are getting worse season on season. I will still give him the benefit of the doubt for 10 games though AS, beleive it or not, there have been positives.

1. Defense was great in first two games - rewind the clock a week and hey presto we're a different team

2. Some players have improve out of sight from last season - Nero to name but one. People should have had more faith like me all along.

3. Dare I say it but Platt is coming on too.

4. Menzies looks a class act, Morrison great as usual.

5. I reckon we'll start squeezing teams out more when Lynch gets back. He for me is the heart and soul of the team and to do without is like Leeds without Peacock or Senfield.

6. The food at the ground is improving. Although I fear this could be a negative if Solomona is given free reign of Odsal on a matchday

Wigan IMO was just a bad day at the office. But the overall decline is my worry. FA and af spout on about how we can't expect to win the easy beat teams any more but you guys are the same ones saying our pack can match it with anyone in the league - so which is it to be??? IMO our pack with a fit Lynch is the best in the league and if our backs can get some confidence back we SHOULD be expecting to finish in the top 4/5. So if things don't change drastically after 10 games I will be calling for sliced Banana...

But give him time yet. The bad run so far COULD be explained by the interupted start plus a bit of simple bad luck (Wigan).

All in all I feel we STILL have the personnel in place to be succuessful, improving on last year. Whilst criticsing in these forums is OK we need to get behind the boys next week when they are out on the paddock against Dull. COME ON YOU BULLS

Canis Canem Edit

: Tue Mar 10, 2009 3:01 pm  

Ancient Provocateur wrote:

Friends, Romans and tigertot, lend me your ears...

Given how most on here have come to bury Macca and not to praise him (or anything else for that matter...), can't you persuade your mate MA to drop in and do a bit of mob-turning here too? His credentials in that regard are of course impeccable...

[Bullseye]

: Tue Mar 10, 2009 3:45 pm  

tigertot wrote: I was referring to all pro clubs. I have spent time at non-SL clubs getting changed under Batley's stand ducking under sheets of wet polythene stretched across the changing rooms to keep the leaks off you, 15 blokes sharing a cold shower (heee, it worr 'ard) etc. Wet polythene? Shower? You were lucky. In my day we stood in t'acid rain and it stripped the mud of us with a lair o skin, an we were grateful for it. http://www.phespirit.info/montypython/f ... iremen.htm

tigertot wrote: I was referring to all pro clubs. I have spent time at non-SL clubs getting changed under Batley's stand ducking under sheets of wet polythene stretched across the changing rooms to keep the leaks off you, 15 blokes sharing a cold shower (heee, it worr 'ard) etc. Wet polythene? Shower? You were lucky. In my day we stood in t'acid rain and it stripped the mud of us with a lair o skin, an we were grateful for it. http://www.phespirit.info/montypython/f ... iremen.htm

: Tue Mar 10, 2009 3:48 pm  

Adeybull wrote:

Given how most on here have come to bury Macca and not to praise him (or anything else for that matter...), can't you persuade your mate MA to drop in and do a bit of mob-turning here too? His credentials in that regard are of course impeccable...

Sorry but i am lost. Who is MA as i am trying to work it out? Am i missing something here?

: Tue Mar 10, 2009 3:57 pm  

mystic eddie wrote:

Sorry but i am lost. Who is MA as i am trying to work it out? Am i missing something here?

He is your alter ego Mystic Aardvark who alters debate by constantly arguing with himself

Boy are you paranoid.

P.S. I am not ME or FA or BadfordServiceCrew

: Tue Mar 10, 2009 4:01 pm  

mystic eddie wrote:

Sorry but i am lost. Who is MA as i am trying to work it out? Am i missing something here?

Seemingly. Marcus Antonius. He from whom the Nero-worshipper was quoting... It wasn't a typo and its not you, don't worry - you instead play the role of the soothsayer telling Caesar to beware the Ides of March...

Edit - speaking of soothsayers, just had a terrible vision myself - one where you and the 'Vark had indeed morphed into one to form an MA on here...jeez that would be like forever listening to Smeagol/Gollum debating with himself on the road to Mordor...eeek!!!!!

: Tue Mar 10, 2009 4:07 pm  

Adeybull wrote:

Seemingly. Marcus Antonius. He from whom the Nero-worshipper was quoting... It wasn't a typo and its not you, don't worry - you instead play the role of the soothsayer telling Caesar to beware the Ides of March...

Ah! Thanks for that. I did not think it was me in the first place [that was for you AP]. I think i need to brush up on my mythology it appears!