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Re: New Signings/Re-Signings : Mon Aug 04, 2014 11:05 am  
So that's 2 centres, a winger and a hooker to sign and we have a starting 13
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Re: New Signings/Re-Signings : Mon Aug 04, 2014 12:18 pm  
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The reason some of us are wanting to keep the likes of Addy and Donno should be obvious to you.
Young, british, club trained and can play to a decent level. The club trained exemption is there for a reason and we need to take full advantage of it - not just next season but from here on out.
How is signing someone like Peterson on a one year deal going to help the club long term? We need to keep our academy prospects as a priority and 'adding mongrel' as you put it should come second.

I would hate for us to let a young academy player slip through our fingers and watch them develop into future international players at another club. See Atkins, Ferres, Wardle and others as examples....


I see the value of keeping club trained players but not exclusively for that reason. IMO they have to be good enough first.

While Donno and Addy are good enough for the level we're playing in next year I don't think they're anything more than back up SL standard. How long do we persevere with them before looking to the likes of Roberts and Mellor? Atkins was let go before he'd developed, same as Wardle, Ferres too to a degree. I'd argue that Addy and Donno aren't going to make significant strides forward now.

The club need to weigh up where to spend their money carefully. Is it better to spend it on someone with potential unrealised who may go on to become something special or on a player who's capabilties are well know but not likely to improve much? As long as we get the balance right we'll be ok.
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Re: New Signings/Re-Signings : Mon Aug 04, 2014 12:26 pm  
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I see the value of keeping club trained players but not exclusively for that reason. IMO they have to be good enough first.

While Donno and Addy are good enough for the level we're playing in next year I don't think they're anything more than back up SL standard. How long do we persevere with them before looking to the likes of Roberts and Mellor? Atkins was let go before he'd developed, same as Wardle, Ferres too to a degree. I'd argue that Addy and Donno aren't going to make significant strides forward now.

The club need to weigh up where to spend their money carefully. Is it better to spend it on someone with potential unrealised who may go on to become something special or on a player who's capabilties are well know but not likely to improve much? As long as we get the balance right we'll be ok.

All well and good but we have already signed up the worst of the three, the epitome of Championship; Tom Olbison.
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Re: New Signings/Re-Signings : Mon Aug 04, 2014 12:32 pm  
Addy, Donno and Olbison all have their strengths and weaknesses.

Olbison takes the ball up well and has good footwork but his defence can be poor.
Donaldson has great tackling technique, but his attack is poor
Addy has some decent core skills like passing and kicking but is slow and his defence is poor.

None particularly excel at anything.

Put them all together in the pack and it's lacking enough quality.

None are really of decent SL material. I can see the need for keeping 2 of them for cover. While they may be better than the average championship player we need better quality if we're to get promoted as we'll be playing SL opposition.
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Re: New Signings/Re-Signings : Mon Aug 04, 2014 12:41 pm  
If you were Jimmy would you want Pitts before Addy or Donno. This new signing is getting some good comments and he does look aggressive in the videos. It is a tough choice for Jimmy when it comes to home grown players especially if he thinks they are only a little above average. I can't see Jimmy accepting "average" next season wherever they are from. I would like to see them stay but am not 100% sure they will ever be top class. Don't be surprised to see some go because Jimmy doesn't want them rather than being taken by other clubs. Clean slate and all of that!
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Re: New Signings/Re-Signings : Mon Aug 04, 2014 12:54 pm  
I wonder what size of squad we will finally have assembled before the start of next season, hopefully a few more than this year to cover the inevitable injuries - as I suspect the other teams will all want to have a go at the Bulls as one of the teams to beat - and keep some genuine competition for places?
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Re: New Signings/Re-Signings : Mon Aug 04, 2014 1:05 pm  
We need at least 25 players in the first team squad to have a chance at promotion. Any fewer and we'll run out of steam.
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Re: New Signings/Re-Signings : Mon Aug 04, 2014 1:41 pm  
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We need at least 25 players in the first team squad to have a chance at promotion. Any fewer and we'll run out of steam.


Fingers crossed we do get a big enough squad to keep those pigs "steaming"
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Re: New Signings/Re-Signings : Mon Aug 04, 2014 2:28 pm  
To be fair to both Addy and Donno, neither have had an easy ride so far.

Donaldson has had a nightmare with injuries, with two which might well have ended his career and yes, I'd agree he's not as far on as he might have been but he's at least two years back, in development terms. He only got a one year deal this time round, allegedly to prove his fitness, and he's done that for my money so he deserves another deal, imo.

Danny has also been messed about and has played virtually every position except full back, which was far from ideal for a young player breaking into the game. It would be good for him to get some stability and make one position his own - either that or take him as a jack of all trades and accept he'll never be a true master of them all. His defence is, ahem, a work in progress shall we say, but he breaks the line, can pass and has good kicking game. With our injury record and his willingness to put his hand up and play anywhere, Danny has been invaluable and should be an even bigger asset next year. At the end of the day we'll need all the SL experience [hopefully] for the middle and end of next season
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Re: New Signings/Re-Signings : Mon Aug 04, 2014 3:26 pm  
Rumour on the Broncos board that they are after Baille from Catalans from next season.
You heard anything about this Hindle? :wink:
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