Re: 2018 Bradford Bulls : Thu Sep 14, 2017 5:10 pm  

To be fair Toronto have unending wodges of hard cash, and that will get anybody into SL.

Re: 2018 Bradford Bulls : Thu Sep 14, 2017 6:30 pm  

I really don't like everything Toronto are about

Re: 2018 Bradford Bulls : Thu Sep 14, 2017 7:08 pm  

Is there no salary cap in the championship?

Re: 2018 Bradford Bulls : Thu Sep 14, 2017 7:36 pm  

debaser wrote:

Is there no salary cap in the championship?

Isn't it the same as SL. Didn't the RFL change it after the first year when they belatedly realised its hard for championship teams to compete against SL teams in the middle 8S when SL teams cap was 1.8million and a championship sides was £1 million.

Re: 2018 Bradford Bulls : Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:11 pm  

Bull Mania wrote:

Isn't it the same as SL. Didn't the RFL change it after the first year when they belatedly realised its hard for championship teams to compete against SL teams in the middle 8S when SL teams cap was 1.8million and a championship sides was £1 million.

So is the cap is not applicable to Toronto then? Do they have a special dispensation?

Re: 2018 Bradford Bulls : Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:22 pm  

debaser wrote:

So is the cap is not applicable to Toronto then? Do they have a special dispensation?

I wonder what Eric Perez's day job is. He's not a concert promoter or anything is he? You know something that you could (hypothetically) use to pay players off the Rugby League books. Pure guesswork obviously and I've just plucked that particular job out of the random ether.

Re: 2018 Bradford Bulls : Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:31 pm  

Get a grip everyone, there is no conspiracy

The cap in the Championship is the same as Super League. It was Derek Beaumont who got that made so, basically he threatened to bust the cap and the RFL caved in.

There's no dispensation for Toronto and they don't need it anyway. Not surprisingly lots of rugby players are more than willing to leave behind places like Bradford and Leigh to live in Toronto for a big chunk of the year. So they don't have to pay over the odds.

Eric Perez is a very astute guy but he's not the money man. The money comes from a guy called David Argyle, who made his money through mining, I believe

Toronto are my 'second team', I think they are doing some really good things

Re: 2018 Bradford Bulls : Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:44 pm  

Does it not make a mockery of the whole system when you have a SL team in all but name playing the amateurs of Oxford?
How do 50-0 thrashings week in week out help to improve the game/build the fanbase?

Re: 2018 Bradford Bulls : Fri Sep 15, 2017 6:45 am  

debaser wrote:

Does it not make a mockery of the whole system when you have a SL team in all but name playing the amateurs of Oxford?
How do 50-0 thrashings week in week out help to improve the game/build the fanbase?

That's not Toronto's fault. The RFL put them in that league (interesting that a 'new club' had to start in League 1 in this instance, but not in the case of the Bulls!) so they can only play what's in front of them.

As for 'building a fan base,, the 7900 who turned up to watch Toronto last week don't seem fazed by one sided score lines. By way of comparison, Salford vs Huddersfield got 1400 on the same day.

Re: 2018 Bradford Bulls : Fri Sep 15, 2017 7:04 am  

paulwalker71 wrote:

That's not Toronto's fault. The RFL put them in that league (interesting that a 'new club' had to start in League 1 in this instance, but not in the case of the Bulls!) so they can only play what's in front of them.

As for 'building a fan base,, the 7900 who turned up to watch Toronto last week don't seem fazed by one sided score lines. By way of comparison, Salford vs Huddersfield got 1400 on the same day.

As someone who's obviously got a degree of interest in the Toronto club, I wonder if you can answer a question I've had for a while. Is the stand on the camera side fairly big? I've watched a few Toronto games and there doesn't seem to be that many people there, but the attendances are always pretty good. I assume they're out of camera shot?