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| Quote debaser="debaser"So 1.8million v 900 thousand?
Nice level playing field then...'"
It's not level but the club trained rule, only 40k counts on the cap, coupled with the number of ex-Bull trained players around might give us a leg up.
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| Does Leon count as Bulls trained?
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| So would we want to see back that we could realistically get back? Leon for one, Sam on a 6 week contract from Bath RFU?
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| Quote roger daly="roger daly"Does Leon count as Bulls trained?'"
The definition of Club Trained Player
Club Trained Player’: a player who has been on the Club’s register for any 3 full Seasons before the end of the Season in which he ceases to be eligible by age to play at Under 21 level. For the avoidance of doubt, from the 2010 Season onwards a player must satisfy the requirement to have been on the Club’s register for 3 full Seasons before being ineligible to play at Under 21 level in order to qualify as a ‘Club Trained Player’ and the fact that he may have qualified as a ‘Club Trained Player’ in the 2008 and/or 2009 Seasons shall be irrelevant.
So there's a fair few players floating around who'd count as Club Trained for Bradford
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| It'll be scrapped within 3 years, I would bet my house on it.
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| Quote Bully_Boxer="Bully_Boxer"It'll be scrapped within 3 years, I would bet my house on it.'"
I fear for the game of Rugby League as a whole.
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| I don't think the quota can be staying at 1 for next year though in SL 2, London are already talking about signing two Aussie players for 2015.
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| Quote Bulliac="Bulliac"It's always possible for a 'lower', or less well funded, team to get themselves worked into a frenzy over a 'one off' cup game, but even though this is perfectly true, how often, in recent history, has a lower league team beaten a fully pro side in any cup game? Even when the better team goes into the game with the wrong attitude, as Leeds clearly did - whatever the coach says - it truly is beyond being even rare.
For the lower league team to do that [and actually win as well in a [ileague[/i format over eight games is patently ridiculous. Let's be honest, we can go back as far as we want, and if all those [very few cup 'upsets' had been played over two legs they wouldn't have happened. RL isn't like soccer, we have a full goal line to defend, so we can't pack the goalmouth and hope for a lucky breakaway. The modern version of RL is probably even more unforgiving to the lower sides than it has ever been in the past.'"
Not to forget the fact that not one Player from the lower leagues are chosen at national or International levels.
Good post mate, it encapsulates what the true pundits of our game know to be true, sustained Giant killing just doesn't happen. One offs, where the underdog wins, are soon shut down, sorry about that Wakefield!
The Bulls had a couple of one off false Dawn's (not you Luke?) but we were quickly brought back to reality were we not?
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| I see London already signing players for next season which is why it is so important we appoint a coach and start to rebuild the squad for next season as soon as possible. The top championship clubs and seemingly London are already well down the track and we cannot afford to have a third off season where we don't or cannot recruit and end up taking whoever is left over.
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| Interesting post on the Broncos forum about a RL radio show that aired on Radio Manchester over the weekend.
Apparently Blake Solly answered a few questions, and the point about overseas/non-fed players in SL2 was raised and Blake's response was that the quota would be 5 players.
Here is the link to the show, questions are somewhere towards the end I believe (I haven't listened to it myself so not sure).
[urlhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p020gnkv[/url
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| Quote Mirfieldbull="Mirfieldbull"If this system was in place this year, I'd have thought, say Halifax, would fancy their chances in a one off game against either London or us!!'"
That though is entirely the point - lower division clubs [ialways[/i fancy their chances in cup games but there [iisn't[/i going to be a, challenge-cup like, one off match to decide promotion - big enough mountain as that would have been anyway, for the lower club. It's a mini-league competition, so they would need to be consistent through that.
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| Quote Northernrelic="Northernrelic"I see London already signing players for next season which is why it is so important we appoint a coach and start to rebuild the squad for next season as soon as possible. The top championship clubs and seemingly London are already well down the track and we cannot afford to have a third off season where we don't or cannot recruit and end up taking whoever is left over.'"
I made this point last week we should have been prepairing months ago for the drop.
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| Quote Nothus="Nothus"Interesting post on the Broncos forum about a RL radio show that aired on Radio Manchester over the weekend.
Apparently Blake Solly answered a few questions, and the point about overseas/non-fed players in SL2 was raised and Blake's response was that the quota would be 5 players.
Here is the link to the show, questions are somewhere towards the end I believe (I haven't listened to it myself so not sure).
[urlhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p020gnkv[/url'"
So they're thinking it will ACTUALLY be SL2. Same rules as Super league in every aspect except a lower salary cap.
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| Quote Bulliac="Bulliac"That though is entirely the point - lower division clubs [ialways[/i fancy their chances in cup games but there [iisn't[/i going to be a, challenge-cup like, one off match to decide promotion - big enough mountain as that would have been anyway, for the lower club. It's a mini-league competition, so they would need to be consistent through that.'"
NOT QUITE........
at the end of the mini league you could have the 4 SL teams in positions 1-4 in the league of 8 and the Champ teams in 5-8 but best placed Champ team in 5th, no matter how many points behind 4th still get to play in a sudden death one off game to decide who goes into SL the following season. So it is like a "cup" game, one bite at the cherry
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| Quote pie.warrior="pie.warrior"NOT QUITE........
at the end of the mini league you could have the 4 SL teams in positions 1-4 in the league of 8 and the Champ teams in 5-8 but best placed Champ team in 5th, no matter how many points behind 4th still get to play in a sudden death one off game to decide who goes into SL the following season. So it is like a "cup" game, one bite at the cherry'"
If that is the case makes the mini league utterly pointless.
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| Sammut signed for Fev full time next year apparently
Fev have also made bids for Michael Monaghan and Leon Pryce
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| Quote daveyz999="daveyz999"Sammut signed for Fev full time next year apparently
Fev have also made bids for Michael Monaghan and Leon Pryce'"
Sammut to fev been rumoured over on our forum for a couple of weeks, i'd be interested in your source if you have one.
Feel free to PM me, it might be the same as mine. 
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| If Leon is available and would be happy to play Championship then I'm fairly sure he'd give us first refusal if we wanted him.
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| Seems like Fev going to make a big push for promotion by planning early. Hope our club starts acting now. Not overpaying for players at twilight of their career (like Monogjan) but signing our academy products, building the team round Mellor, Bates, Brook, O'brien.
Find out from our current squad who is willing to stay next year, then recruit players in their position.
Lets not wait till pre-season for half our props to jump ship. Lets ask them now and start planning.
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| Sammut is only on dual reg at Fev for now, not a fully fledged signing.
However it seems like Jay Pitts has agreed to join them in 2015 which is a shame from our point of view.
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| Quote Rarebreed="Rarebreed"I fear for the game of Rugby League as a whole.'"
People have been for 120 years.
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| Quote Ferocious Aardvark="Ferocious Aardvark"If Leon is available and would be happy to play Championship then I'm fairly sure he'd give us first refusal if we wanted him.'"
I think the old lad has a couple more years at SL left in him yet, if recent performances are anything to go by.
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| Quote kinleycat="kinleycat"Sammut to fev been rumoured over on our forum for a couple of weeks, i'd be interested in your source if you have one.
Feel free to PM me, it might be the same as mine.
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I follow a journalist on twitter who specialises in RL (previous member of this forum actually)
He's met the chairman of Fev today. What I wrote is pretty much what he's quoted as saying.
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| Quote tigertot="tigertot"People have been for 120 years.'"
The game appears to be run by people who have very little idea what is happening at grass root levels and have made plans for the future of the game which is widely accepted as an experiment only... many fans do not understand or believe this will work. Time will tell but the amount of fans lost in the process could be catastrophic.
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