: Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:19 am  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

The coach carries the can, and it is up to him to sort whatever it is, but frankly I think it's past the point of no return now. An unlikely win against Leeds may be all that can save him as I have that feeling of a coach here who is on borrowed time from his Board, it has, to me, that 'end of days' feel about it now and I am sure Hood & Co. will have had that conversation. Whether it is right or wrong, it seems to be gathering an ominous aura of inevitability about it.

Where is ME he will want this for his sig

For me I think there is a case for sticking with Macca until it is clear we wont make the playoffs but many would argue that we are starring down the barrel of doing this now. Sad times for the club.

On a positive note, it was pleasing to hear Claire Balding describe Nero as 'the emperor'

: Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:24 am  

Its looking bad for the coach. This is substantially his team, its past the stage where some of the blame lay with previous regimes. If this collapse had been a one off you could excuse it but its the third under his leadership and as Lady Bracknell would say....

I thought after the Wigan match that it was time for Hood to start looking around to see who else might be available. But what we dont need is an abrupt sacking followed by the hasty appointment of some out of work coach who just happens to be readily available. I'd still rather write off this season and make sure we have the right guy in place in the summer, when recruiting for next season starts.

: Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:26 am  

If FA has lost the faith I do feel it is the end for Mac, I will get no pleasure from it, quite the opposite; another potentially top British coach bites the dust. I have not seen the game, I was enjoying the banter of Cougarville, but the teams performances & attitude is the sum of the coaches work. Saints showed you can beat the best in SL without a SH if you are coached well (flashback to Milward), Leeds showed you can challenge the best in the CC even if you are playing poorly provided your key men put the effort in.

: Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:30 am  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

But I refuse to believe that te players do not know our defensive patterns, that plainly can't be possible, and so if you eliminate that then it means they do know their defensive patterns, but simply lose their heads and ignore them for swathes at a time..

The only other explanation I can think of is that Macca cannot do tactics on the fly, or adapt to a changing tactical situation. When he has all week to analyse & drill the players to an upcoming game - We generally start well & brightly (ignoring Wigan). At half time - the oppositon coach can see what needs to be done to nullify our strengths & exploit our weaknesses in that specific game - and does it. I have no idea what happens in our dressing room at half time but not much seems to summarise it. The opposition start to exert some pressure, our confidence vanishes like snow off a dyke, leadership on & off the field takes an ill-timed break, then we have post match platitudes again.

As an aside - Platt just took a huge gamble with that offload - if he held onto the ball I think another set without possession was certain defeat anyway - so the choice he was left with was -

1) hold onto ball, look competent but certain defeat

2)Very risky offload - small chance to get possession back, downside looks stupid.

: Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:33 am  

Highlander wrote:

The only other explanation I can think of is that Macca cannot do tactics on the fly,

I think the bigger problem is that he has recruited a group of players who cannnot do tactics on the fly

: Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:36 am  

tigertot wrote:

If FA has lost the faith I do feel it is the end for Mac, I will get no pleasure from it, quite the opposite; another potentially top British coach bites the dust. I have not seen the game, I was enjoying the banter of Cougarville, but the teams performances & attitude is the sum of the coaches work. Saints showed you can beat the best in SL without a SH if you are coached well (flashback to Milward), Leeds showed you can challenge the best in the CC even if you are playing poorly provided your key men put the effort in.

I haven't lost the faith, I can just see it coming. If he goes it is his players who have let him, and us, down so badly.

How are we coached? Who coached the team that clinically dismantled Catalans and steamrollered into a 26-0 lead? I think it was McNamara.

And Leeds? They are out of the Cup, exactly the same as us, having lost comprehensively on their own pitch to a team lacking key players. Maybe there is a God

[Bullseye]

: Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:37 am  

Cibaman wrote:

I think the bigger problem is that he has recruited a group of players who cannnot do tactics on the fly

The whole set up isn't working at the moment. The season is a write off and I hope we're already on the lookout for a new coach.

: Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:41 am  

Bullseye wrote:

The whole set up isn't working at the moment. The season is a write off and I hope we're already on the lookout for a new coach.

Yup. Best we can hope for is scraping 8th place then out of the playoffs at first attempt, early break for everyone.

I actually think 8th is beyond us at present, we are looking at 10th/11th really on current form.

[Bullseye]

: Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:42 am  

Highlander wrote:

I actually think 8th is beyond us at present, we are looking at 10th/11th really on current form.

On current form you can't argue with that.

: Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:04 am  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

And Leeds? They are out of the Cup, exactly the same as us, having lost comprehensively on their own pitch to a team lacking key players. Maybe there is a God

My point about Leeds is that I don't think they are that good. I am still not sure about McL, but what Leeds do have is a nucleus of (world?) class players still with enough belief to get them through most scrapes.