Re: HUGE Annoucement : Fri Jan 27, 2017 12:37 pm  

DrFeelgood wrote:

It would be a bit of an anti-climax if it was announcing that season tickets would be honored, considering the implication that they will be! Mick Gledhill mentioned it was to do with season tickets and matchday prices, which I wouldn't consider huge news. The only thing I can think of is that season ticket prices might come down considerably, in which case there would be loads of people already bought their season tickets wanting a refund, and then a cloud of worry in the support base over whether lowering season ticket prices would be financially prudent given the mess we're in. Hopefully, today will clear the air!

If there's the financial cushion provided by the owners to cover any shortfall, I don't see an issue with a season of cheap season tickets especially given the club have missed 3 months of sales time.

However, it wouldn't be prudent to go for such a course if there isn't that backing as we saw previously with the super cheap tickets that didn't have the corresponding footfall within the stadium.

Personally, if there is the money there, how I'd handle it is as a way to engender good will from the fan base to the club and it's new owners by saying "those 1k people who stood up and gave their money to the club only to see the fall out of the last few months should be recognised as true supporters of this club. As such, not only will their season ticket purchases be honoured, they will each receive a full and complete refund for the cost of said tickets." Then push for the reduced price tickets for anyone who wants to buy now.

The trouble is, going by today's cash only sale in the club shop, it would seem that the club hasn't yet been able to set up banking/card payment facilities yet. I believe Omar had similar issues when he took over. This is something that the club obviously needs to get sorted ASAP as few people will be willing to part with cash for a big purchase such as a season ticket

Re: HUGE Annoucement : Fri Jan 27, 2017 12:41 pm  

roofaldo2 wrote:

The trouble is, going by today's cash only sale in the club shop, it would seem that the club hasn't yet been able to set up banking/card payment facilities yet. I believe Omar had similar issues when he took over. This is something that the club obviously needs to get sorted ASAP as few people will be willing to part with cash for a big purchase such as a season ticket

If they want a season ticket payment from me, they'll have to sort out card payment facilities. I don't have the funds at the moment to pay for a season ticket if it's anything near a normal price and will have to be paying for it on the credit card until at least next pay day.

If I can't pay by card, I can't by a season ticket.

Re: HUGE Annoucement : Fri Jan 27, 2017 1:04 pm  

I would drop the prices down to about £170 per ticket for adults.
To keep the people who paid happy I would offer them a £50 voucher for each ticket previously bought for the shop as a thank you for accepting a drop in prices after they paid. This would cost the club half that so about £25k - but if they got another 1000 paying £170 that brings in another £170k.
This would be best of both worlds.

A few of us were discussing how skint we will be this year but money can still come in and build up quickly.

> £150k possibly in new STs
> £150k central funding
> Say we average 4500 gates with 2k STs = 2500 walk up X 15 home games = 37.5k supporters @ £20 = £750k

> Unknowns are other income such as shop, parking, food, drink
> Sponsorship will be generated

I am clearly not an accountant but is it totally unreasonable to think we can still generate between £1.2m - £1.5m income.

They said the costs ran at about £2.5m but massive savings have since been made.

We will probably be short but that depends on us supporters generosity and how good our new commercial manager is at his/her job.

We need to get through this year financially and finish as high as possible so that next year we get substantially more central funding, higher gates and build sponsorship again. Hitting £2m next year could be achievable if all goes well.

Re: HUGE Annoucement : Fri Jan 27, 2017 1:07 pm  

Don't forget the VAT on the entrance fees

Re: HUGE Annoucement : Fri Jan 27, 2017 1:07 pm  

*temporary ground membership

Re: HUGE Annoucement : Fri Jan 27, 2017 1:16 pm  

roofaldo2 wrote:

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Personally, if there is the money there, how I'd handle it is as a way to engender good will from the fan base to the club and it's new owners by saying "those 1k people who stood up and gave their money to the club only to see the fall out of the last few months should be recognised as true supporters of this club.

If I'm a true supporter i want a badge that says so

Re: HUGE Annoucement : Fri Jan 27, 2017 1:23 pm  

DemonUK wrote:

Don't forget the VAT on the entrance fees

I'm pretty sure you don't need to pay VAT on memberships - Mark Green told me personally

Re: HUGE Annoucement : Fri Jan 27, 2017 1:48 pm  

paulwalker71 wrote:

I'm pretty sure you don't need to pay VAT on memberships - Mark Green told me personally

I think Hood was also an expert on this subject!

Re: HUGE Annoucement : Fri Jan 27, 2017 2:06 pm  

DemonUK wrote:

Don't forget the VAT on the entrance fees

I did say I am not an accountant and all figures may be higher or lower.
It was written simply as a guide to show that this year will be tight but could still bring in a reasonable return - especially if we start winning and crowds reappear.
The financial situation will be fluid as the year progresses.
Unfortunately, Greens financial bucket had holes in it and Ferrett was carrying it.

Re: HUGE Annoucement : Fri Jan 27, 2017 2:19 pm  

woolly07 wrote:

I did say I am not an accountant and all figures may be higher or lower.
It was written simply as a guide to show that this year will be tight but could still bring in a reasonable return - especially if we start winning and crowds reappear.
The financial situation will be fluid as the year progresses.
Unfortunately, Greens financial bucket had holes in it and Ferrett was carrying it.

Hopefully, Toovey - being a chartered accountant - has grasped that outgoings have to be matched by income. Something that appears to have escaped Green and Ferres.