Re: Bulls Takeover : Mon Nov 18, 2019 4:51 pm  

I'm definately not Stuart Duffy. Any person who has been an integral part of the Bulls management through the past years of diabolical standards and waste should move out on principle and not be a part of any new management at Tong or wherever we play.

Re: Bulls Takeover : Mon Nov 18, 2019 5:48 pm  

ArastuJah wrote:

I'm definately not Stuart Duffy. Any person who has been an integral part of the Bulls management through the past years of diabolical standards and waste should move out on principle and not be a part of any new management at Tong or wherever we play.

Totally agree

Re: Bulls Takeover : Mon Nov 18, 2019 7:23 pm  

This thread is great. When do we get the bottle that says "Drink me" and the cake that says "Eat me"?

Re: Bulls Takeover : Mon Nov 18, 2019 7:57 pm  

I have to say, I have heard some bulls hit stories in my time and listened to lying conniving fools. It was my job to listen them for nigh on 30 years. EVERY time I read the Nestegg bulls hit, I just laugh to myself and think 'why would anyone believe this fantasist?'. Amazingly it seems some have and some do believe it.
Whoever writes this rubbish is not articulate, is not intelligent legally, financially or otherwise and is definitely not someone with inside knowledge. Whoever it is, is just a bulls hitting fantasist. Please stop listening to whoever it is and ignore his/her rubbish.

Re: Bulls Takeover : Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:51 am  

ArastuJah wrote:

I'm new here as an account holder but have been reading for a good while.

Ok but I'm not sure many will believe you

The same person attended a local amatuer rugby club on the morning of the NRL Grand Final and was pretending to be involved with Sport England as an investigator of some description and making some noises about Odsal and Nigel Wood and sport england investigation that isn't actually taking place. That person has no involvement at all with Sport England.

I'm sure none of this will come as a surprise to most readers here but thought I would make the point clearly

Nearly everything you mention on this post is available within this thread. For someone attacking Nestegg, you are showing a lot of the same characteristics. Queue response by Nestegg attacking ArastuJah and agreeing with me (but I won't see it as I've blocked Eggface)

Re: Bulls Takeover : Tue Nov 19, 2019 10:00 am  

ex Bull Dog wrote:

Ok but I'm not sure many will believe you


Nearly everything you mention on this post is available within this thread. For someone attacking Nestegg, you are showing a lot of the same characteristics. Queue response by Nestegg attacking ArastuJah and agreeing with me (but I won't see it as I've blocked Eggface)

Was thinking the same about the availability of information told in the post

Re: Bulls Takeover : Wed Nov 20, 2019 11:38 am  

Unfortunately some people are gullible, there was a case around 10 years ago on an aviation forum (Prune.org) where a chap had multiple posts describing how he was starting an airline with L1011 aircraft (I think it was going to be called Lion Air ? ) his posts were very technical and knowledgeable, in the end he had fully staffed his "airline" with qualified pilots,cabin crew and ground staff from the forum !! It was only after some promises started to unravel that he was found to be a Walter Mitty (much like Nestegg) who eventually had multiple legal actions taken out against him by people who had been conned into employment contracts, he was tried in court and completed a jail sentence.
So many "sensible" people were fooled by his posts, it really does sound familiar.

[Pumpetypump]

Re: Bulls Takeover : Wed Nov 20, 2019 5:12 pm  

Which scallywag wrote this. Tell teacher. Q: Hello to the new consortium Many thanks for giving Bulls fans a vehicle to speak directly to the board. My points below are not meant to be aired in public, but I would appreciate you digesting these thoughts from a loyal follower of the club. Having been a season ticket holder on and off since 2002, I have spent both plenty of cash and time in supporting the club throughout the highs and the (too many) lows. I am still a season ticket holder, as I will probably be into the coming season. However, in common with a good many reasonable, mature, and loyal individuals, I am becoming somewhat unsettled by the muddied waters which now surround both the ownership and the future fortunes of the Bulls. I am a member of RLFANS.COM, which as its name suggests, is populated by RL loving individuals - some sane and sensible, some slightly off the wall, and some downright ignorant and abusive. There are also a fair sprinkling of trolls who, unfortunately, have become synonymous with such forums. However, on the whole, the level of debate on the Bulls section tends to be relatively normal, with many views being discussed on many topics. During the past month or so, following a similar timeline to your takeover of the club, an individual who supposedly speaks on behalf of a somewhat shady group, has been posting a large amount of both statements and questions which point towards distrust of your intentions. This is clearly de-stabilizing many supporters who read these forum posts. I am a prime example of this, as I am seriously considering whether to renew my season ticket, given that the problems of the club may not be done and dusted. The individual posts under a certain username and has posed many serious questions, and made strong allegations of potential mismanagement of the club. I am aware that questions are also being raised by various strands of both the media and the clubs themselves, and no doubt they are likely to be asking similar questions to the poster. In light of these challenges, and to give some confidence to the long suffering supporters, would it not be time now to take a view of the issues being raised, and either completely refute all the nonsense or readily accept that some of the elements have some semblence of fact. I believe that we all want to see the Bulls continue into the future, and that a successful club is important to the RL as a whole. I also believe that a total regime of honesty, openness, and sincerity is the only method of taking the remaining supporters with you into the new season and beyond. Thank you for taking the time to read these few lines. I wish you and your fellow shareholders success in your endeavors to stabilise and grow the Bulls brand. ======== A: We are aware of some of the posts. Unfortunately we can't actually stop people insinuating, hinting, alleging or generally trying to de-stabilise the confidence. It is a simply truth that we can't prove a negative, nor can one disprove someone’s prejudice or conspiracy theory, we have no sensible course of action to anyone who says “we hear you but we don’t believe”​. ​It is not our job to pass comment about past management. We haven’t the time really. We will work tirelessly trying to recover the position of the club and will expend all our energy looking forward.​ ​Some of the so-called journalists who are most critical and lack most objectivity haven’t even contacted the club, let alone asked for interviews with the key stakeholders. Some critics haven’t been to game in years. Some don’t even support the club and seem to enjoy causing aggravation for the club. ​ ​We won't give in or give up. We will work with all those who want to work positively with us. The others can please themselves.​ Many thanks The Bulls http://www.bradfordbulls.co.uk/article/ ... s-answered

Which scallywag wrote this. Tell teacher. Q: Hello to the new consortium Many thanks for giving Bulls fans a vehicle to speak directly to the board. My points below are not meant to be aired in public, but I would appreciate you digesting these thoughts from a loyal follower of the club. Having been a season ticket holder on and off since 2002, I have spent both plenty of cash and time in supporting the club throughout the highs and the (too many) lows. I am still a season ticket holder, as I will probably be into the coming season. However, in common with a good many reasonable, mature, and loyal individuals, I am becoming somewhat unsettled by the muddied waters which now surround both the ownership and the future fortunes of the Bulls. I am a member of RLFANS.COM, which as its name suggests, is populated by RL loving individuals - some sane and sensible, some slightly off the wall, and some downright ignorant and abusive. There are also a fair sprinkling of trolls who, unfortunately, have become synonymous with such forums. However, on the whole, the level of debate on the Bulls section tends to be relatively normal, with many views being discussed on many topics. During the past month or so, following a similar timeline to your takeover of the club, an individual who supposedly speaks on behalf of a somewhat shady group, has been posting a large amount of both statements and questions which point towards distrust of your intentions. This is clearly de-stabilizing many supporters who read these forum posts. I am a prime example of this, as I am seriously considering whether to renew my season ticket, given that the problems of the club may not be done and dusted. The individual posts under a certain username and has posed many serious questions, and made strong allegations of potential mismanagement of the club. I am aware that questions are also being raised by various strands of both the media and the clubs themselves, and no doubt they are likely to be asking similar questions to the poster. In light of these challenges, and to give some confidence to the long suffering supporters, would it not be time now to take a view of the issues being raised, and either completely refute all the nonsense or readily accept that some of the elements have some semblence of fact. I believe that we all want to see the Bulls continue into the future, and that a successful club is important to the RL as a whole. I also believe that a total regime of honesty, openness, and sincerity is the only method of taking the remaining supporters with you into the new season and beyond. Thank you for taking the time to read these few lines. I wish you and your fellow shareholders success in your endeavors to stabilise and grow the Bulls brand. ======== A: We are aware of some of the posts. Unfortunately we can't actually stop people insinuating, hinting, alleging or generally trying to de-stabilise the confidence. It is a simply truth that we can't prove a negative, nor can one disprove someone’s prejudice or conspiracy theory, we have no sensible course of action to anyone who says “we hear you but we don’t believe”​. ​It is not our job to pass comment about past management. We haven’t the time really. We will work tirelessly trying to recover the position of the club and will expend all our energy looking forward.​ ​Some of the so-called journalists who are most critical and lack most objectivity haven’t even contacted the club, let alone asked for interviews with the key stakeholders. Some critics haven’t been to game in years. Some don’t even support the club and seem to enjoy causing aggravation for the club. ​ ​We won't give in or give up. We will work with all those who want to work positively with us. The others can please themselves.​ Many thanks The Bulls http://www.bradfordbulls.co.uk/article/ ... s-answered

Re: Bulls Takeover : Wed Nov 20, 2019 5:52 pm  

I noticed that Pumptey wasn't me though.

Fair play for them carrying on this Q&A. Interesting we've budgeted for 1000 ST and we've sold 731. I'm pretty confident we'll get through the 1000 barrier but it shows how much damage has been done to the supporter base.

It does appear they haven't censored the questions, I was glad to see the question regarding fans on the board and the question stressing they don't want a "social media fan" on the board. We don't want more propaganda.

Re: Bulls Takeover : Wed Nov 20, 2019 6:02 pm  

Pumpetypump wrote: Which scallywag wrote this. Tell teacher. Q: Hello to the new consortium Many thanks for giving Bulls fans a vehicle to speak directly to the board. My points below are not meant to be aired in public, but I would appreciate you digesting these thoughts from a loyal follower of the club. Having been a season ticket holder on and off since 2002, I have spent both plenty of cash and time in supporting the club throughout the highs and the (too many) lows. I am still a season ticket holder, as I will probably be into the coming season. However, in common with a good many reasonable, mature, and loyal individuals, I am becoming somewhat unsettled by the muddied waters which now surround both the ownership and the future fortunes of the Bulls. I am a member of RLFANS.COM, which as its name suggests, is populated by RL loving individuals - some sane and sensible, some slightly off the wall, and some downright ignorant and abusive. There are also a fair sprinkling of trolls who, unfortunately, have become synonymous with such forums. However, on the whole, the level of debate on the Bulls section tends to be relatively normal, with many views being discussed on many topics. During the past month or so, following a similar timeline to your takeover of the club, an individual who supposedly speaks on behalf of a somewhat shady group, has been posting a large amount of both statements and questions which point towards distrust of your intentions. This is clearly de-stabilizing many supporters who read these forum posts. I am a prime example of this, as I am seriously considering whether to renew my season ticket, given that the problems of the club may not be done and dusted. The individual posts under a certain username and has posed many serious questions, and made strong allegations of potential mismanagement of the club. I am aware that questions are also being raised by various strands of both the media and the clubs themselves, and no doubt they are likely to be asking similar questions to the poster. In light of these challenges, and to give some confidence to the long suffering supporters, would it not be time now to take a view of the issues being raised, and either completely refute all the nonsense or readily accept that some of the elements have some semblence of fact. I believe that we all want to see the Bulls continue into the future, and that a successful club is important to the RL as a whole. I also believe that a total regime of honesty, openness, and sincerity is the only method of taking the remaining supporters with you into the new season and beyond. Thank you for taking the time to read these few lines. I wish you and your fellow shareholders success in your endeavors to stabilise and grow the Bulls brand. ======== A: We are aware of some of the posts. Unfortunately we can't actually stop people insinuating, hinting, alleging or generally trying to de-stabilise the confidence. It is a simply truth that we can't prove a negative, nor can one disprove someone’s prejudice or conspiracy theory, we have no sensible course of action to anyone who says “we hear you but we don’t believe”​. ​It is not our job to pass comment about past management. We haven’t the time really. We will work tirelessly trying to recover the position of the club and will expend all our energy looking forward.​ ​Some of the so-called journalists who are most critical and lack most objectivity haven’t even contacted the club, let alone asked for interviews with the key stakeholders. Some critics haven’t been to game in years. Some don’t even support the club and seem to enjoy causing aggravation for the club. ​ ​We won't give in or give up. We will work with all those who want to work positively with us. The others can please themselves.​ Many thanks The Bulls http://www.bradfordbulls.co.uk/article/ ... s-answered I particularly liked the "My points below are not meant to be aired in public", to which they aired them in public

Pumpetypump wrote: Which scallywag wrote this. Tell teacher. Q: Hello to the new consortium Many thanks for giving Bulls fans a vehicle to speak directly to the board. My points below are not meant to be aired in public, but I would appreciate you digesting these thoughts from a loyal follower of the club. Having been a season ticket holder on and off since 2002, I have spent both plenty of cash and time in supporting the club throughout the highs and the (too many) lows. I am still a season ticket holder, as I will probably be into the coming season. However, in common with a good many reasonable, mature, and loyal individuals, I am becoming somewhat unsettled by the muddied waters which now surround both the ownership and the future fortunes of the Bulls. I am a member of RLFANS.COM, which as its name suggests, is populated by RL loving individuals - some sane and sensible, some slightly off the wall, and some downright ignorant and abusive. There are also a fair sprinkling of trolls who, unfortunately, have become synonymous with such forums. However, on the whole, the level of debate on the Bulls section tends to be relatively normal, with many views being discussed on many topics. During the past month or so, following a similar timeline to your takeover of the club, an individual who supposedly speaks on behalf of a somewhat shady group, has been posting a large amount of both statements and questions which point towards distrust of your intentions. This is clearly de-stabilizing many supporters who read these forum posts. I am a prime example of this, as I am seriously considering whether to renew my season ticket, given that the problems of the club may not be done and dusted. The individual posts under a certain username and has posed many serious questions, and made strong allegations of potential mismanagement of the club. I am aware that questions are also being raised by various strands of both the media and the clubs themselves, and no doubt they are likely to be asking similar questions to the poster. In light of these challenges, and to give some confidence to the long suffering supporters, would it not be time now to take a view of the issues being raised, and either completely refute all the nonsense or readily accept that some of the elements have some semblence of fact. I believe that we all want to see the Bulls continue into the future, and that a successful club is important to the RL as a whole. I also believe that a total regime of honesty, openness, and sincerity is the only method of taking the remaining supporters with you into the new season and beyond. Thank you for taking the time to read these few lines. I wish you and your fellow shareholders success in your endeavors to stabilise and grow the Bulls brand. ======== A: We are aware of some of the posts. Unfortunately we can't actually stop people insinuating, hinting, alleging or generally trying to de-stabilise the confidence. It is a simply truth that we can't prove a negative, nor can one disprove someone’s prejudice or conspiracy theory, we have no sensible course of action to anyone who says “we hear you but we don’t believe”​. ​It is not our job to pass comment about past management. We haven’t the time really. We will work tirelessly trying to recover the position of the club and will expend all our energy looking forward.​ ​Some of the so-called journalists who are most critical and lack most objectivity haven’t even contacted the club, let alone asked for interviews with the key stakeholders. Some critics haven’t been to game in years. Some don’t even support the club and seem to enjoy causing aggravation for the club. ​ ​We won't give in or give up. We will work with all those who want to work positively with us. The others can please themselves.​ Many thanks The Bulls http://www.bradfordbulls.co.uk/article/ ... s-answered I particularly liked the "My points below are not meant to be aired in public", to which they aired them in public