: Tue Mar 24, 2009 2:49 pm  

I don't think VP is a viable option for the Bulls, that said I wouldn't be hugely unhappy if we ended up there.

The SV makes the most sense for all parties concerned, economically and socially speaking.

Many fans (from both clubs) will probably say they're against a move, in reality though, how many will actually STOP going? A small percentage in the medium to long term I would estimate.
At the end of the day, we all want to see our clubs performing to the highest level, I don't think people would mind where that is.
A superleague winning side at VP v's a NL2 side at Odsal? I know where I'd rather be.

A big stumbling block is the emotional tie to VP for City fans, the few I know haven't got an issue with moving, but I accept there will be some with strong feelings attached to VP.
I think as suggested a memorial, naming of a stand, the indoor arena, or whatever would be a good starting point.

: Tue Mar 24, 2009 2:50 pm  

Bully_Boxer wrote:

Whilst I can appreciate City fans being sceptical of the OSV ever happening, I cannot really understand why some appear so against it. Bradford has very little going for it right now, but OSV would give something for all Bradfordians to be proud of. I'd love to see the two clubs join forces and grow stronger together in a stadium that delivered superb facilities. I'd be absolutely in favour of branding the OSV 50/50 because this Stadium should be something for the whole City.

An OSV would be the new home of Sport in Bradford, not just the Bulls. I just pray the Council and all parties involved can actually make it happen in these difficult times.

Here here.

Ground. : Tue Mar 24, 2009 5:38 pm  

Looking at OSV, I just think it won't happen. Bradford Council in my opinion never have and never will be bothered about the Bulls or City. How the OSV has slowly progressed so far does not feel me with much confidence. In Bradford if something is not planned & built straight away it won't happen, e.g. Broadway, Previous Odsal Schemes, etc. Like many other Bulls' fans it really annoys me with the excellent location Odsal has it just seems destine to be never be developed. Unless a massive injection of cash is given to the Bulls, VP is the only option. I'd rather see the Bulls go to VP on our terms rather than in few years be forced down to VP when OSV has failed and the Bulls cannot afford Odsal, which knowing the Bulls luck it will & see the Bulls under the thumb of City which I don't want to happen, e.g. Wigan. Bulls need a modern stadium now not 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,10+ years time. Its embarrassing when 'lower' clubs like Doncaster, Leigh, to name a few have new stadiums now. Like 'Wigan Bull' stated do we have top flight rugby at VP or play lower level rugby at a run down Odsal because its 'where the Bulls should be' which would echoe from a lot of older Bulls/Northern fans.

Re: Ground. : Tue Mar 24, 2009 6:01 pm  

mjb1895 wrote:

Looking at OSV, I just think it won't happen. Bradford Council in my opinion never have and never will be bothered about the Bulls or City. How the OSV has slowly progressed so far does not feel me with much confidence. In Bradford if something is not planned & built straight away it won't happen, e.g. Broadway, Previous Odsal Schemes, etc. Like many other Bulls' fans it really annoys me with the excellent location Odsal has it just seems destine to be never be developed. Unless a massive injection of cash is given to the Bulls, VP is the only option. I'd rather see the Bulls go to VP on our terms rather than in few years be forced down to VP when OSV has failed and the Bulls cannot afford Odsal, which knowing the Bulls luck it will & see the Bulls under the thumb of City which I don't want to happen, e.g. Wigan. Bulls need a modern stadium now not 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,10+ years time. Its embarrassing when 'lower' clubs like Doncaster, Leigh, to name a few have new stadiums now. Like 'Wigan Bull' stated do we have top flight rugby at VP or consider moving out of Bradford, to be become Calderdale, Kirklees or the Leeds Bulls!

Your post shows that you need to do some mugging up on the OSV. Peter Hood is extremely confident that it will happen, and the fact is that it is NOT Bradford Council's project, nor the Bulls'.

There's infinitely more chance of OSV happening than a "massive injection of cash being given to the Bulls", that is for sure.

[Bullseye]

: Tue Mar 24, 2009 6:11 pm  

It does seem that the OSV has more chance than previous projects and while it has the backing of the major players and the club it should be supported by the supporters.

Going to VP isn't something we should consider while the OSV is on the table.

Ground. : Tue Mar 24, 2009 6:35 pm  

I've nothing against OSV just cannot see it happening, I think its because we've been let down so many times, not just the Bulls but Bradford in general it just leads me thinking 'here we go again'. From my first post ideally I would like City & the Bulls to have there own grounds but just cannot see it happening thats all. From Bulls Website: "The partners in the scheme are Bradford College, the University of Bradford, Sport England, Bradford Bulls, the Primary Care Trust, Bradford Council and Yorkshire Forward." I stand corrected Aardvark but I still don't think it will happen because I am expecting dates, with the 3 year licences in play the Bulls or any other club cannot depend on 'mays, ifs & possibilies'. I think the RFL will look at undeveloped grounds in a much harsher light the next time especially with promises like Wakefield been broken already much to the annoyance of Widnes' fans.

Re: Ground. : Tue Mar 24, 2009 8:27 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote: Your post shows that you need to do some mugging up on the OSV. Peter Hood is extremely confident that it will happen, and the fact is that it is NOT Bradford Council's project, nor the Bulls'. And yet this message does not seem to be getting out to some people. This can't help, one (highly tangential) news result in ther past month.

Ferocious Aardvark wrote: Your post shows that you need to do some mugging up on the OSV. Peter Hood is extremely confident that it will happen, and the fact is that it is NOT Bradford Council's project, nor the Bulls'. And yet this message does not seem to be getting out to some people. This can't help, one (highly tangential) news result in ther past month.

Re: Ground. : Wed Mar 25, 2009 9:55 am  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

Peter Hood is extremely confident that it will happen.

Like he was confident of Greg Bird Playing for us, or confident that we would win the Harris case, or the confidence he has in Steve McNamara as the most intelligent Rugby league brain he has ever met.


he needs to get out more!

: Wed Mar 25, 2009 9:57 am  

dixie wrote:

Absolutely nothing wrong with that my old friend.

Dix, the difference is you live in leeds and come here every so often for the sparkilng wit and excellent beer, curry and rugby. some people are from Bradford and deny it!

: Wed Mar 25, 2009 11:15 am  

isaac1 wrote:

Much of the bile that is trotted out by City fans, is by those living in the Aire Valley. the snobs from North of the City who wont even put the dreaded word Bradford in their address, and only are linked by a BD postcode!!! So good people, of Bingley, Baildon, Steeton, Silsden etc... remember that you are part of Bradford whether you like it or not! These are the people who gladly are on the facebook "Leeds" network and only venture into Bradford on match days!!!

But people who live in the Aire Valley aren't from Bradford, they are from Bingley, Keighley or wherever,

Just because the government, in their wisdom, decided to create a Bradford Met District doesn't mean that people are now Bradfordians, because they aren't.

In fact if they weren't part of thos faux district we might actually get more things done in Bradford itself, the leaders of our council all live out in Haworth, Ilkley etc and don't actually seem to be in touch with the reality of life in then city.