Re: Potential Head Coach Options : Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:05 am  

Kear ticks those boxes and this doesn’t look like ending well

Re: Potential Head Coach Options : Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:48 am  

I feel like our problems lie much deeper than just the head coach, but for the sake of the thread topic I'd sound out Lee Greenwood and see if he fancies a go. He can bring his backroom staff with him too because even Dewsbury look in better shape than our plodders.

Re: Potential Head Coach Options : Sun Apr 17, 2022 4:57 pm  

Got to be the coaching staff surely? We’re capable of playing good rugby. We have the players to play decent stuff and we have shown that against Dewsbury, Leigh and last 20 against Barrow. So the head coach is obviously wanting to play percentage rugby.

The conditioning staff, well, we look unfit. I understand that a part time team won’t be the best but even the lower sides look fitter and more lean.

If there was financial issues then there would have been something coming out, someone somewhere would know.

If it’s purely an attitude thing well the coaching staff recruited these players. And it’s the coaches job to create a good atmosphere.

Re: Potential Head Coach Options : Mon Apr 18, 2022 9:35 am  

The team's tactics are stale and they're unfit, what else can this be about other than poor coaching?

Re: Potential Head Coach Options : Tue Apr 19, 2022 10:16 am  

Dutch Bull wrote:

The team's tactics are stale and they're unfit, what else can this be about other than poor coaching?

The coach has nothing to do with keeping them in shape.

[Bullseye]

Re: Potential Head Coach Options : Tue Apr 19, 2022 10:23 am  

Nothus wrote:

The coach has nothing to do with keeping them in shape.

Would love to know what Kear thinks of the fitness levels. It's his job that's on the line because of it. The players are taking the mickey by turning up with beer bellies. It shows Kear and the club as a soft touch.

Re: Potential Head Coach Options : Tue Apr 19, 2022 10:34 am  

I've been questioning if Kear is the right person to take us forward for a while now and that has been purely my own opinion based on the way the team have performed, the way I have witnessed them being trained and the style/tactics that has been employed. For me the team is way better on paper than the results have been suggesting.

On Friday I spoke with a few of the players after the game and I would suggest going by their comments, Kear has lost the dressing room. I'm not going to name names as it would be unfair on them, but they can see the same things that are wrong that us fans see. One suggested that Kear cannot see those issues and insists on playing to a certain structure that clearly isn't working which is frustrating a large number of the playing staff.

Fitness is one of the areas of contention, as is the ruck speed and in particular the ability to get a quick play of the ball/slow the opposition doing the same. The lack of mobility in our forwards means that we struggle to regain our feet quickly and cannot defend competently at marker defence.

We have a number of talented squad members who deserve their shot, but JK insists on playing his favourites even when medical advice suggests otherwise. Prime example is Sam Scott leaving the field, which won't have come as a huge surprise to many who know the actual extent of his knee injury. Why would a coach chose that option when he has a number of other players waiting for their chance, AJ Wallace being one?

I am convinced that a change of coach would have an immediate lift to this team, and hopefully provide a lot of them with a clean slate and genuine chance of some game time which won't happen with the current set up. That said, I don't think the club can afford to pay him up so unless JK has a change of heart, its going to be a long long season.

Assuming we don't renew his contract, I'd personally go for James Webster if he was available. He coached Fev on a PT basis and if he work/studies at Leeds Beckett will allow it, then I think he would be a very good appointment. Another option for me would be Rhys Lovegrove who has done a great job in L1 with Keighley and could potentially be interested in a step up.

Re: Potential Head Coach Options : Tue Apr 19, 2022 10:36 am  

Bullseye wrote:

Would love to know what Kear thinks of the fitness levels. It's his job that's on the line because of it. The players are taking the mickey by turning up with beer bellies. It shows Kear and the club as a soft touch.

From what I know, Kear doesn't think its a fitness issue.

Re: Potential Head Coach Options : Tue Apr 19, 2022 10:36 am  

Bullseye wrote:

Would love to know what Kear thinks of the fitness levels. It's his job that's on the line because of it. The players are taking the mickey by turning up with beer bellies. It shows Kear and the club as a soft touch.

Yeah you can talk all day about tactics but the game we're asking the players to play requires 80 minutes of fitness and enthusiasm and without it, there is literally zero hope.

That said, Kear said at the start of the season that he and Aaron Murphy spoke and said they were miles ahead of where they were last season. Crossley has been injured and seemed fitter this week but I actually think some players have put weight on since the start of the season. I've never seen anything like it.

Re: Potential Head Coach Options : Tue Apr 19, 2022 11:47 am  

Bulls Boy 2011 wrote:

Hard to really choose one. Most are under contract and would be difficult to get here.

A few names mentioned that I’d try for is Paul Anderson and Andrew Henderson.

Another that I’d like to see is either Danny Ward or Jamie Langley. Both did excellent in London.

Or a left field choice and try to pry Paul Deacon, Mike Forshaw or Langley away from Sale. Deacs is the head coach but was the attacking coach for a few years before hand so he could maybe get more expansive rugby out of our team. Obviously his RL coaching pedigree, he’s been assistant to Shaun Wane at Wigan and assistant to Steve McNamara with England.

Forshaw is the defensive coach for Sale. And was an assistant at Warrington for a time. Be great if we could afford both. But can’t see it.

For me Anderson, Henderson and Ward would be the top 3 choices. Deacs, Forshaw and Langley would be outside choices.

Saying that. I think Lingard has done a great job at Batley. And I’d like to see him maybe.

It would probably take a huge offer to get Lingard to make a step down.