: Thu Mar 12, 2009 2:02 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

:lol:

And I asked you, what chaos?

We've never had this "chaos", whilst never previously having this "system".
The "threat of chaos" has been 100% disproved by the absence of any such chaos in the past few decades. Despite the almost ever-presence of me and "my attitude".

You'll have to do better.

I repeat IF

There has been no chaos because everyone doesn't adopt your attitude

: Thu Mar 12, 2009 2:09 pm  

Wigan Bull wrote:

I repeat IF

There has been no chaos ...

Thank you. And so why do we need a new system?

[Bulliac]

: Thu Mar 12, 2009 8:02 pm  

To get back to the original question I found it easier. This was probably because my ticket was never checked ( my hands were full when I entered the stand) and I was just waved through with a smile.

It was certainly easier, just the same as the old way in fact, though I`m not so sure about the security. Since the world and his wife can just wander down the hill into the stand it just seems like open house to be honest and I`m sorry but I still haven`t worked out what the problem with the old system was.

: Thu Mar 12, 2009 8:28 pm  

The only possible explanation I can think of for the (now-aborted) change was to facilitate free movement of people round all of the ground. Unfortunately the layout of the facilities around and behind the main stand does not readily lend itself to that.

Either that or it was a cunning plan to provide a focus of contention away from what was happening on the park...

: Fri Mar 13, 2009 3:59 pm  

Adeybull wrote:

The only possible explanation I can think of for the (now-aborted) change was to facilitate free movement of people round all of the ground. Unfortunately the layout of the facilities around and behind the main stand does not readily lend itself to that.

Either that or it was a cunning plan to provide a focus of contention away from what was happening on the park...

But the people who sit in the stand have paid a lot more money to do so than the rest of the ground, who already have far more and better variety of catering outlets. Sure you can get a pass out and traipse around teh ground to them, but what is the need for people who do NOT have a stand ticket to come behind the stand, when they can't get anything they couldn't get near where they were stood, and where all that will happen, if they do come round, is a lengthening of queues for such minimal facilities as do exist at the back of the stand.

Anyway - what's this "now aborted" comment? Come on, spill ye beans.

: Fri Mar 13, 2009 4:20 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

Anyway - what's this "now aborted" comment? Come on, spill ye beans.

Scroll up a ways...Steam Pig posted the link to the announcement before all this most interesting heated debate...

: Fri Mar 13, 2009 5:08 pm  

Wigan Bull wrote:

I repeat IF

There has been no chaos because everyone doesn't adopt your attitude

Although I do appreciate that you've shut up, nevertheless I have been directed to the following quote:

Bulls General Manager Ryan Duckett said today.

...after several meetings with our senior stewards and listening to the concerns of our supporters, we feel it was affecting our Customer Service and therefore we will change the system commencing at the game against Hull FC on Sunday."

Maybe my "attitude" did the trick, then!

: Fri Mar 13, 2009 5:33 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

Although I do appreciate that you've shut up, nevertheless I have been directed to the following quote:


Maybe my "attitude" did the trick, then!

Shut Up....hmm, more stopped having a cross purpose disagreement.

The point I was trying to make was that if 5,000 of us all stood to watch the last 10mins at the back of the stand, as you did and ignored requests to sit back down it wouldn't be the greatest. Would you agree?

And I'm not saying the approach of the stewards is the best by any means, but they are just trying to do a job, as instructed.

Anyway, let's not start an 11 page argument off on it shall we?

: Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:27 pm  

Okay first of all the system has been changed as we the fans were not happy with it, it was thought not needed and it was not working, we all got what we said we wanted so no problem surely.

Second, standing is not allowed at the back of the Main Family Stand due to that being a designated disabled viewing area for those not able to sit in the stand by any other means than in a Wheelchair. It must be kept clear as I and the rest of the people who use that area do not want to reverse into anyone who is stood behind me when they shouldn't be, unless you have a penchant fopr broken toes.

I really hope this explains it.

: Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:53 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

But the people who sit in the stand have paid a lot more money to do so than the rest of the ground, who already have far more and better variety of catering outlets. Sure you can get a pass out and traipse around teh ground to them, but what is the need for people who do NOT have a stand ticket to come behind the stand, when they can't get anything they couldn't get near where they were stood, and where all that will happen, if they do come round, is a lengthening of queues for such minimal facilities as do exist at the back of the stand.

Anyway - what's this "now aborted" comment? Come on, spill ye beans.

The nearest toilets to where we stand are behind the stand, its bl00dy petty that they won't let us in to use them.