: Thu Mar 05, 2009 3:16 pm  

Trimalchio wrote:

Yes, it was too soon for him. I expect him to take a similar role to McNamara during the WC, doing some colouring in while Smith gets on with the real business

El Diablo wrote:

I reckon so. I still think Leeds gave Daryl Powell the head coach job too early and it did his career a lot of damage. I hope Wire are moving in time to stop the same from happening to Lowes.

I just hope jimmys ego lets him take it the right way and use the situation as an opportunity to develop his coaching.

: Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:17 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

I think that most of the non-NT would be amazed if Bradford, who are in a rebuilding phase, were genuine title challengers this year. Building a squad capable of challenging for the title is a long process and few teams achieve it. If they do, it takes years not weeks.

But then I am not amongst those who consider anything short of world domination "failure".

I've been waiting for that to be trotted out it's the favorite excuse.

: Thu Mar 05, 2009 10:02 pm  

Duckman wrote: Smith to Wire Jimmy to be first team coach under Tony Smith, good move by wire IMO. The appointment to head coach clearly too soon for Jimmy? I thought one of the prerequisites of Smith taking up the national job was that it was his only coaching job????

Duckman wrote: Smith to Wire Jimmy to be first team coach under Tony Smith, good move by wire IMO. The appointment to head coach clearly too soon for Jimmy? I thought one of the prerequisites of Smith taking up the national job was that it was his only coaching job????

: Thu Mar 05, 2009 10:22 pm  

Bullpower wrote:

I thought one of the prerequisites of Smith taking up the national job was that it was his only coaching job????

You must be mistaken, I'm sure the RFL wouldn't move the goalposts..

: Thu Mar 05, 2009 10:25 pm  

Bully_Boxer wrote:

You must be mistaken, I'm sure the RFL wouldn't move the goalposts..

The RFL never move the goalposts. That must be right, cos they tell us they don't.

So thats settled, then.






















Shame they can't resist keep moving the bloody pitch around underneath the goalposts, mind...

: Thu Mar 05, 2009 10:29 pm  

Bullpower wrote:

I thought one of the prerequisites of Smith taking up the national job was that it was his only coaching job????

After a disappointing tri-nations in 2006 they decided we needed a full time coach.

Oddly, after an absolutely appalling world cup they decide this isn't necessary anymore, it will be interesting to see if the "Technical Director" role is continued and someone else appointed to it, long term it is far more important than the national coach job and I don't think the two should be combined anyway.

: Fri Mar 06, 2009 9:51 am  

Also, to the absolute top echelon of coaches, the fact that the job of coaching England doesn't actually involve much at all in the way of coaching is a problem. If you want to be the coach of the national side, you probably have to be ready to give up 95% of your actual coaching, if it can't be combined with any other coaching job.

: Fri Mar 06, 2009 3:06 pm  

In truth, how much time does the England coach spend coaching? He gets about a fortnight a season in contact with the players. The rest of the time he basically has to watch matches and decide who to pick. The job can be done with Sky plus most of the time.

Until that situation changes, there's no real function to a full time coach.

Additionally, until the supporting structure and standard of youth development improves across the country, there's a whole universe full of pointlessness in having a full time national team coach. In the World Cup, it didn't really matter which 17 players the coach picked from those available, who said coach was or what kind of contract he had.