Re: 17/3/12 | Bradford Bulls vs St Helens | 17:15 | #SLBraSt : Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:43 pm  

The results sound like an excuse to me. This early in the season, after playing in the last GF under the same coach, with plenty of time to turn it around before the play offs, this is not about the results. If it's about getting to the GF this year then replacing your 1 & 2 with your 3 & 4 is not the way to do it.

Either the people above him or the people below him can't stand him.

Anyway, screw Saints and their next three games.

Our next three games are looking very interesting now.

Salford at home
Hull away
Leeds at home.

Salford could be tough and Leeds could easily be a lottery. Hull away is a real test though.

Re: 17/3/12 | Bradford Bulls vs St Helens | 17:15 | #SLBraSt : Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:46 pm  

Even when we've been poor the last 2 seasons, we always up our game against Leeds. Hopefully both sets of fans will be in for a treat with a great game for that one.

Re: 17/3/12 | Bradford Bulls vs St Helens | 17:15 | #SLBraSt : Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:09 pm  

Bully_Boxer wrote:

The ref hadn't blown his whistle.

My bad. I thought he had, either way the game had stopped, Gaskell had relaxed his concentration & all other players apparently the same. What Elima did is not in dispute, just the timing of it. I actually gave a whoop of delight when it happened as Bulls have been missing that aggression for a long time, as a number of posters have said.
When I sat back down I thought it was a dumb play by Elima, Saints at that time showed all the body language of a defeated team & I worried the afters might galvanise them into a response. It did momentarily but they continued losing discipline.
3 years ago I called Elima the best back row in SL, he's not at that level yet but is looking pretty frightening again.

[Bulliac]

Re: 17/3/12 | Bradford Bulls vs St Helens | 17:15 | #SLBraSt : Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:24 pm  

tigertot wrote:

I am waiting for it to come on line before I can watch it again. Listening to Jamie Bloem on Radio Leeds yesterday, who is now a referee & commentated on the game, he said "If the ball is on the floor Foster has got to have the right to kick it" (or something along those lines), followed by "When his boot makes contact with Whitehead's face it has to be a penalty". It seems Bloem thinks he has. The only reason I can see that Foster couldn't go for the ball is if Whitehead had already scored the try, which I don't believe he had at the time.

I expected some opposition to my view but I didn't expect it to crash the site.

The ball is bound to be on the floor when a try is scored but it was in the try scorer's hands, and I whilst I'm certainly no referee, I'm fairly sure you're not allowed to kick out at a ball when it's in someone's hands - even if simultaneously, it is on the floor.

I'm perfectly happy to concede that it wasn't deliberate - these things happen in the heat of battle, and the ball may well have been loose on the ground when he cocked the trigger but as was shown on all the replays, it was in Whitehead's hands well before the kick arrived and he didn't have to follow through with it - imo, it was dangerous and rightly penalised. We should though, hear no more about it from Red Hall.

Re: 17/3/12 | Bradford Bulls vs St Helens | 17:15 | #SLBraSt : Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:25 pm  

Sorry Bulliac, but we will be hearing more about it.

Been charged with a Grade B offence has Olly. WTF?

[Bulliac]

Re: 17/3/12 | Bradford Bulls vs St Helens | 17:15 | #SLBraSt : Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:34 pm  

AaronBull wrote:

Sorry Bulliac, but we will be hearing more about it.

Been charged with a Grade B offence has Olly. WTF?

FFs*&^*%*&^*(*& Jesus flamin' wept- well he would if he were a Bulls' fan.

When I said not hearing any more I was thinking of Foster on Whitehead I always felt some numpty would come up with something like this, for some reason they always try to knock us down when we do a bit better. Nobody likes us but we don't care. sod 'em all, COYB.

Re: 17/3/12 | Bradford Bulls vs St Helens | 17:15 | #SLBraSt : Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:36 pm  

Olly has been charged? What? With making a tackle?
This is bloody ludicrous.

Re: 17/3/12 | Bradford Bulls vs St Helens | 17:15 | #SLBraSt : Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:50 pm  

debaser wrote:

Olly has been charged? What? With making a tackle?
This is bloody ludicrous.

Tackling someone without the ball, after the game had stopped I would guess. To limit the backlash to my original post I refrained from saying I thought he might have led with his forearm as well, though it happened so quickly that might be crap. None of it is a criticism of Elima, I miss it from the game & have missed it from Bradford's game for too long. But if you play on the edge you have to accept the rules as they are interpreted at the time.

Re: 17/3/12 | Bradford Bulls vs St Helens | 17:15 | #SLBraSt : Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:59 pm  

tigertot wrote:

Tackling someone without the ball, after the game had stopped I would guess.

Thought it was more to do with the fact that he didn't have the ball at the time?

Haven't watched the game back yet but IIRC he hadn't blown his whistle?