Well that was ugly : Fri Apr 01, 2016 10:57 pm  

Only one winner of that game from the moment the second half kicked off. We could have played until Christmas and we wouldn't have scored. Superb from Sneyd to win it, a brilliant player, another one we missed out on. Hull have hit a wall after a good start, several out injured, several playing injured and they were the only side looking to win that today. Fully fit at their place, they would put 50 on us. What Warrington will do is potentially alarming. Walmsley was our best players last season but is a mess at the moment, unfit and a complete liability in defense. Rest him next week, absolutely no point playing him.

McManus needs to grow a pair and do something about this mess now. I had a massive rant in mind walking back to the car, but can't be bothered now, the club makes me feel physically sick at present, meandering happily down the road to mediocrity. He's in charge of this farce and the old boys club has surely run out of road. Recruitment and coaching are massive areas of complete and utter failure and there are absolutely no signs that McManus even realises this is the case. There should be rumours of players coming in for next season, there should be confirmed exits of deadwood players and maybe a couple moved on now. Owens, Dawson, Burns, Peyroux and Tasi are simply not good enough to play for Saints, the likes of Walsh, Wilkin and Turner are also not worth keeping so need to leave.

Re: Well that was ugly : Fri Apr 01, 2016 11:54 pm  

I'd love McManus to hold a fans forum like David Howe used to do

Re: Well that was ugly : Sat Apr 02, 2016 6:22 am  

You have a genuine halfback in the Academy, Danny Richardson.
IMO it is time to give him a go in the halves with Fages.

Re: Well that was ugly : Sat Apr 02, 2016 7:31 am  

Hull FC fan in peace. Over the years as FC have ambled about in lower mid table, quite a lot of our fans have defaulted to supporting Saints against cynical bullies Wigan, boring Leeds and up themselves Warrington. This has been pretty easy given your formerly glorious, expansive, imaginative play. Since Cunningham took over though you look reminiscent of FC under Agar; ponderous, one-out, hit and hope. Hope you get it sorted soon as the league is better for strong entertainers.

Was an exciting game for us last night. We're on a little run of comebacks so Sneyd closing it out wasn't that unexpected, but nonetheless a tough game. We may be reaping the benefits of relatively few injuries and Radford rotating the squad very well over the gruelling 8 day Easter period.

Re: Well that was ugly : Sat Apr 02, 2016 8:02 am  

Mrs Barista wrote:

Hull FC fan in peace. Over the years as FC have ambled about in lower mid table, quite a lot of our fans have defaulted to supporting Saints against cynical bullies Wigan, boring Leeds and up themselves Warrington. This has been pretty easy given your formerly glorious, expansive, imaginative play. Since Cunningham took over though you look reminiscent of FC under Agar; ponderous, one-out, hit and hope. Hope you get it sorted soon as the league is better for strong entertainers.

Was an exciting game for us last night. We're on a little run of comebacks so Sneyd closing it out wasn't that unexpected, but nonetheless a tough game. We may be reaping the benefits of relatively few injuries and Radford rotating the squad very well over the gruelling 8 day Easter period.

I thought you started to win the energy battle around 60 mins, your rested players seem to be paying dividends after that. We picked up a few injuries in the first half which stared to tell later on in the game, especially against the big lads Pritchard and Fonua who were tackle busting and getting offloads away.

Re: Well that was ugly : Sat Apr 02, 2016 9:24 am  

Can't disagree with a lot of that, Saddened.

I think results are going to continue to be inconsistent, especially with all the injuries but part of me is excited/hopeful that we blood a few kids into the side to see what they can do. I don't want our medical team strapping up the likes of Walsh and getting them back on the pitch when I've not even been impressed with them at full fitness. I want to see what the next generation can bring to the table because there's going to be a fair few players leaving at the end of the season and we're not the type of club that goes out and signs half a team in one go.

Re: Well that was ugly : Sat Apr 02, 2016 9:41 am  

The most worrying sign for me is that were playing players who dont derserve to play and were not giving youth a chance.

Richardson should be in. Knowles should be in and playing his natural position. Aaron smith should be in instead of burns for rotation hooker.

Walsh. Dawson. Wilkin. Shoukd be no where near this first team. Season is alrwasy over. Blood the youngsters ffs.

Re: Well that was ugly : Sat Apr 02, 2016 5:55 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

McManus needs to grow a pair and do something about this mess now. I had a massive rant in mind walking back to the car, but can't be bothered now, the club makes me feel physically sick at present, meandering happily down the road to mediocrity. He's in charge of this farce and the old boys club has surely run out of road. Recruitment and coaching are massive areas of complete and utter failure and there are absolutely no signs that McManus even realises this is the case. There should be rumours of players coming in for next season, there should be confirmed exits of deadwood players and maybe a couple moved on now. Owens, Dawson, Burns, Peyroux and Tasi are simply not good enough to play for Saints, the likes of Walsh, Wilkin and Turner are also not worth keeping so need to leave.

I think you've got to realise that most of Superleague is going down the route to mediocrity especially in the quality creative player department, Warrington and Widnes are managing to make a fist of it at the moment. Who would have thought Huddersfield and Leeds bobbing along the bottom because they have lost a couple of creativity players, there is not much back up with most teams if they lose there half backs to injury, look at Castleford and Salford both lost there stand offs and are struggling, Widnes will be the same if Brown gets injured. Wigan fans are not happy either despite there league position they too are finding the season boring.
It going to be an up and down Superleague this year, if we can get Lomax, Percival, Swift and Vea back then we have the options to play to there strengths, thats if KC takes off the blinkers of course.

Re: Well that was ugly : Sat Apr 02, 2016 6:04 pm  

Judder Man wrote:

I think you've got to realise that most of Superleague is going down the route to mediocrity especially in the quality creative player department, Warrington and Widnes are managing to make a fist of it at the moment. Who would have thought Huddersfield and Leeds bobbing along the bottom because they have lost a couple of creativity players, there is not much back up with most teams if they lose there half backs to injury, look at Castleford and Salford both lost there stand offs and are struggling, Widnes will be the same if Brown gets injured. Wigan fans are not happy either despite there league position they too are finding the season boring.
It going to be an up and down Superleague this year, if we can get Lomax, Percival, Swift and Vea back then we have the options to play to there strengths, thats if KC takes off the blinkers of course.

Percy, Vea and swifty was all fit at the Start of the year and played dire rugby. We won't change how we play, we are a one up team with no creativity. Vea is now one of our battle rams too.

Re: Well that was ugly : Sat Apr 02, 2016 6:13 pm  

Even though I have a season ticket I couldn't be bothered going on Friday.

I've been a fan for over 50 years and I've seen sides go through bad patches but there was always the optimism that they'd put a good run together and turn the corner but in this case it's not a case of a good side going through a bad spell there doesn't seem any light at the end of the tunnel.

Yes I know we have injuries but, Percival Swift and Lomax are young promising players not established superstars so there's no guarantee that they will make a significant impact on there return.

The club needs to remember that although we're fans we're also paying customers and like any business they need to be marketing a product that we want to buy.

I know the salary cap is restrictive but if they want to compete in the market place you need "bums on seats" type of signings something they haven't done for a couple of seasons.